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One of his responses for an IP was Hello Kitty :lol:
I can see it

I've been hearing that from people for yearssssss -- "last year sucked, I didn't get on anything, I don't want to go this year." "You go to that? Aren't the lines always like 2 hours long? How is that worth it?" "Knotts is scarier, HHN is the same thing every year, you can see the scares from a mile away." "Ghostbusters isn't scary." "Why is there a Weeknd maze? Who would want to go through that?" "That's way too expensive, Fright Fest is way cheaper (in the past)."

I'd love nothing more than HHN to finally have to address hundreds of concerns that even us die-hard fans have had by evolving into a better event. Perhaps a bad attendance year is what we need. If they don't fail, they don't learn. Considering this year isn't the best anyway, maybe it's the perfect time for them to fail. Everything wrong with the event is on heavy display more than usual (aside from the lines lol). I took a survey today, let them know my thoughts, and was brutally honest -- I doubt it'll make a difference and more than likely, attendance will pick back up at least slightly by this weekend, but one can hope there's meetings going on already about how they have to change some things to wow people next year.
This is what I hear from everyone now. Lines are too long. I for one think the event got too big.. as in having us walk from the lower lot to h lot and then back to upper lot. Not as bad as the metro sets I guess but I liked that area better than H lot. (Sorry double post)
 
Any guesses as to what the IP was and what got thrown in? I think it's clear Weeknd and Quiet Place were planned from the start. Insidious had a movie last year and Ghostbusters had a movie this year, so I don't think it was them. That leaves TCM, but from Murdy's presentation, it seemed there was some fairly heavy talks with the rights holders. Monstrous 2 and Monsters they've been doing consistently. Dead Exposure is the only outliet, but they did start construction on it first.
 
^Yeah that would make sense.

I don’t want to go down the debate of why they won’t do this (We already know why) but with how “light” this year was with IPs they should’ve done Terrifier.
 
Would it be reasonable to guess that FNAF was originally going to be SS12 and Bloodlines was going to be Mummy, then they decided Dead Exposure would be a weird choice for a soundstage, so they switched some things around? Just basing that entirely off of nothing ofcourse lol
 
Insidious would be my next guess and I can see that making sense. Maybe that's why this year's mazes are...a little softer? Reminds me of Stranger Things in 2018 where nothing was too extreme. TCM being the most gross out of the bunch, but it's an easy property to just throw in.
 
Well at least from what I saw last night

The tram, Chucky show and bloodlines are all the Same as weekend. The rumored changes still have not happened to any of them
Bloodlines first room was empty when I went, Chucky show was just as interactive as last week and no wolfman on the tram (I which twice on the tram as well)
Also the Cruze zone at least the two times I lasted it only had one crow, while mast weekend had more then one crow when I passed it

Lines were definitely longer and universal still hates general admission. Made the general line Walt 8 mins before moving when the weekend house opened. Lines only exist because of the express Policy, if it was even 7 express people fir every 3 general it would make a world of difference but every attraction I went in they greatly favored express the Chucky show was easily over 100 people let in before the general line moved as well
 
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Sounds like bad ops training. They should have a ratio they're following (i.e. approximately 15 general guests for every 30 express if express guests are waiting).
 
Well at least from what I saw last night

The tram, Chucky show and bloodlines are all the Same as weekend. The rumored changes still have not happened to any of them
Bloodlines first room was empty when I went, Chucky show was just as interactive as last week and no wolfman on the tram (I which twice on the tram as well)
Also the Cruze zone at least the two times I lasted it only had one crow, while mast weekend had more then one crow when I passed it

Lines were definitely longer and universal still hates general admission. Made the general line Walt 8 mins before moving when the weekend house opened. Lines only exist because of the express Policy, if it was even 7 express people fir every 3 general it would make a world of difference but every attraction I went in they greatly favored express the Chucky show was easily over 100 people let in before the general line moved as well
Haven’t been yet this year, but this was the case last year and it was just miserable. I remember timing how long it took for the General Monsters Unmasked line to move and it was like 20 minutes at a time of only Express guests being let in. Going on Sunday and bought Express for this reason… I almost feel guilty lol
 
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Sounds like bad ops training. They should have a ratio they're following (i.e. approximately 15 general guests for every 30 express if express guests are waiting).
Every time USH sends me a survey, I'll mention this

I know some might think it must be less then that but...I have it on film.

Now TCM at EA when I've gone seems to more follow this. Normally takes just a minute or two for TCM

Also the Chucky show was easily over 100 people, so no idea if thats the new ops or what but....just insane.

I hope it gets better

Also last night they were advertising selling express pass upgrades to anyone at the first mobile guest service booth for the event as you walk in after the scanning your tickets. Which was not the case last weekend, when I asked opening night they said they were sold out of in park upgrades
 
Going on Sunday and bought Express for this reason… I almost feel guilty lol
Don't feel guilty, we all have the same objective, it's no different than people clogging up the lines to get repeats in. Blame Universal. Express needs to exist because Express exists. Until they get rid of it, I'll personally keep utilizing it because waiting in general freakin' SUCKS literally because of how Express bypasses lines with 0 wait. And if it ain't gonna be us buying Express, it dang sure will be someone else -- so it might as well be us. After all, we ARE paying nearly THREE times as much as a normal day ticket for the privilege -- we could easily just go three times, but instead we said "hey, I want to go once and I want it to be great." It IS a premium and those ticketholders should get that experience. Should the line be as fast? Perhaps not, but it shouldn't be much slower either, because I barely finish everything with Express as it is (I'm always lugging around 7-15 additional people with me).

In a way I feel like I've "done my time" with the general line waits, as I barely started doing Express last year after more than 20 years of Haunts. However, I will HAPPILY -- and I emphasize HAPPILY -- wait in general if Express doesn't exist anymore. I experienced Disneyland without FastPass/Lightening Lane and it was amazing -- I can't think of a system more fair. But I won't take the moral high ground and wait 2 hours for a maze or stress myself with gameplans in the meantime, it literally helps nobody because like I said -- if it's not us, it certainly will be someone else paying that premium. If there's a major boycott to change the system, best believe I'd partake, but if all we get is the people on this forum to rally, it won't make a dent. Something drastic needs to happen, like a viral TikTok that makes Universal look REALLY REALLY BAD (this is where that footage may come in handy @Jerroddragon).

Even if they got rid of Express and not RIP, that'd be fine. Or even if they made Express MUCH MORE expensive so that it's much harder to acquire, it'd be harder for most people to get that ticket -- Universal makes the same amount of money but less people in Express lines, it's a win-win. But ultimately, I'd prefer, even if they raised prices by 25% for GA, that they simply get rid of Express or have non-Express nights. I don't know, now I'm spitballing and rambling. Point is, Universal is the bad guy here, not the users of Express haha