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HHN Hollywood Speculation/News - 2014

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I find it quite amusing people are bitching about walking 0.34 of a mile.

Its a longer walk to parkhop from DCA main gate to the entrance of Space Mountain at Disneyland.

Its not a long walk.
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Well, since I'm one of the people you're referring to. Mind you, I love going on long walks, but It was extremely hot and humid for a walk like that. Paying guests should not have to take a hot and humid boring trek. It's not a pleasant walk by any stretch of the imagination. I'll be curious to hear everyone's thoughts about it.
 
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Would not be shocked if they are using trams again by the end of the event.
 
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I'll be going tomorrow mainly for the Eyegores. Been having some tooth nerve problems so I'm liking going to call it a night early
 
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I'll be there for the entirety of the Eyegore Awards and HHN tomorrow. I'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight.
 
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Saw some videos of HHN in Orlando compared to USH... while the effort is definitely there in USH, don't get me wrong, it seems like Orlando packs in so much more into everything they do. The event seems to be a blast whereas Hollywood kind of seems tired and trying to do the bare minimum, especially this year.

Werewolf and AVP look like a blast but everything else is kind of a bore. Even the Purge scarezone in USF looks to be much more riveting, kinetic and fun than what we have in California.

I'll see for myself in a month but so far I'm not very impressed and I hope the event moves in a far more fun and elaborate direction next year. Also a show, maybe, would help?
 
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Saw some videos of HHN in Orlando compared to USH... while the effort is definitely there in USH, don't get me wrong, it seems like Orlando packs in so much more into everything they do. The event seems to be a blast whereas Hollywood kind of seems tired and trying to do the bare minimum, especially this year.
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That's an interesting observation. While Florida definitely has volume, I've always believed that Hollywood has better production quality overall. While some themes are certainly tired, the level of production in Hollywood is quite evident when it comes to make-up, props, and...well...shows (even though that's no longer applicable).

Regardless I find it ironic that Hollywood arguably lost one of its biggest advantages over Florida in this year's event. Seems fitting, no?
 
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It hadn't really hit me until recently what a huge impact this event will take without a single show on the roster. Even with an additional maze, I predict some brutal wait times for this year.
 
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The walk to the Metropolitan sets will basically be the same amount of time you could've been watching a show :P
 
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That's an interesting observation. While Florida definitely has volume, I've always believed that Hollywood has better production quality overall. While some themes are certainly tired, the level of production in Hollywood is quite evident when it comes to make-up, props, and...well...shows (even though that's no longer applicable).

Regardless I find it ironic that Hollywood arguably lost one of its biggest advantages over Florida in this year's event. Seems fitting, no?
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It's really hard because for the first time in about three years I'm not there and I'm definitely biased by judging on the videos released. There's two factors you have to take in that I'm sure people may (rightfully so) argue:

1) Florida has a lot more space to work with, especially since zero construction projects are currently occurring within USF itself at the moment. Whereas USH is tabled with over half the park under construction.

2) Ironically even though the point of UOR is to draw in tourists, it's undeniable that the Florida theme parks have an extremely passionate local fanbase. Yes, you see the small woodwork of fans peter out for the parks every now and then, but it's not nearly as vocal or purely excitable as the east coast. Thus is why HHN EPN over there saw vlogs of various such as Tim Tracker who basically exhume raw energy towards every single thing they encounter. This is then compared with the few videos of HHN EPN for Hollywood which is basically a few maze walkthroughs with a mute cameraman who walks into the mazes with empty queues and little to no other guests. The most energetic thing is the opening Purge scare-monies which is nice at best, but not much we haven't seen before.

Here's what I have to say against this:

1) The fact that half the park is under construction is no excuse. At all. Why? Because when that construction is done absolutely none of it can be used for Horror Nights anyways. Oh sure, Potter and Springfield will help with capacity but it won't affect the overall experience in any other sort of way. Add in the fact that this event is literally the last time HoH will ever be used, so even less of this lot will be available next year. So space is no excuse. When I look at Florida's scarezones, a good deal of them occur in a small space, but bridled with wondrous constant chaos. Just look up a video of the Bayou of Blood scarezone, which has hourly blood sacrifices. Last year I clearly remember the Chucky scarezone rarely had Chucky doing his insult stand-up, and when he wasn't that thing was a complete bore. I don't know why Murdy thinks that every single scarezone should be relatively quiet with very little energy to up the scares. It works sometimes, but he should learn that you can have fun and be scared at the same time. Florida understands this so well. Space has nothing to do with it, just crank up the energy and the pizazz. I haven't seen pictures of the Mask-a-Raid scarezone in USH, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have that awesome chandelier present in the USF version. Little touches like that go a long way. Don't even get me started on how it seems the Walking Dead scarezone in Metro has even been neutered from last year.

2) While there are the Tim Tracker vlogs and such, I also viewed another one that was just a man by himself as well and it was infused with music and an overall feeling of guest excitement. Yes, the HHN there is not a dry event as compared to ours but we have a CityWalk with several bars just outside the gates, and I can assure you from personal experience that is not remotely a factor here. The event doesn't feel dull because people are "sober", it's because it feels like it only wants to scare you. Like as if that's its only priority. Even the Clowns 3D maze (which is one of the most disappointing and cheapest things I've ever seen this event do) has only one element of pure black humor while the rest is shockingly dull. At least the Alice Cooper maze from a couple years back was packed with gags, even the El Cucuy maze last year had its brand of quirkiness. Here it seems that is completely out of the window. And even worse we've lost Bill and Ted. There seems to lack a strong element of fun here, which is only glimpsed at with AvP and AWiL.

Of course it's employee preview night and I wasn't even there in person so yes it's highly, highly unfair of me to judge it this critically. But I saw the beginnings of this start to creep in last year compared to 2012 with a small bit of dulling of the event, now it seems that it has nearly fully spread. And for those who have personally gone and disagree, I definitely want to hear your view on it. The only reason I am going this year is because my sister is a huge Walking Dead nut and I told her that this is very likely the last year for that IP, aside from that I really for the most part am not looking forward to this. I'd rather be on the other coast that seems to want to both scare you and party it up... that's the version of Horror Nights I much more prefer. (and no WUB WUB does not count  :P )
 
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Heard good reviews for Orlando's Bill and Ted. Sigh.

Anyone going for opening night tomorrow?
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I'll be there! :D
 
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I've been lucky enough to visit Orlando's Event for a few years. (04-10) The a few distinctions I've made between the two from my time there is while Hollywood has way smaller sets the level of detail in them is usually the same or a lot higher, same can be said for the costumes. The consensus I heard for most of the scarezones this year in Orlando is "They're not bad but they're not great either." I just think you can't compare both events through videos. From what I experienced at EP Night this year is a massive improvement over last year. It has its flaws but it's an improvement nonetheless. 
 
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i was reading on the official halloween horror nights facebook page that there is gonna be a tram to the backlot mazes. it said the same as last year
 
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Well I guess we'll find out soon enough of the tram situation. Could've easily have just been a thing for EPN.

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I've been lucky enough to visit Orlando's Event for a few years. (04-10) The a few distinctions I've made between the two from my time there is while Hollywood has way smaller sets the level of detail in them is usually the same or a lot higher, same can be said for the costumes. The consensus I heard for most of the scarezones this year in Orlando is "They're not bad but they're not great either." I just think you can't compare both events through videos. From what I experienced at EP Night this year is a massive improvement over last year. It has its flaws but it's an improvement nonetheless. 
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Well, to be fair I did say exactly that in the post and did acknowledge that Jon is right about the detail probably being higher. But I don't think execution should lay wayside and of course there are people who have different opinions on what matters at Horror Nights. I'm sure there's an argument to be made in the costumes and sets being more to your liking over last year, but I just prefer atmosphere over those things. Bill and Ted was one of the things that helped give levity to the heavy-handed mood Murdy was putting on the event more and more heavily every year. It seemed that with each one, another piece of comedy/party-flavor/fun was stripped away from the event. Of course that is not what the event should be about, but it helps. Now with Bill and Ted gone, HHN feels like it's probably lost one of its final ingredients that made the event feel well-rounded.

Compare that to Orlando (and Knott's for that matter) with its multiple shows and kinetic energy. (projections on sides of the buildings in the queue lines, for instance) Again, I'm not there and so many people are going to the opening night right now that I feel like I'll be pummeled with feedback but if you can provide reasoning of why this is an improvement that would be awesome.
 
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Well I guess we'll find out soon enough of the tram situation. Could've easily have just been a thing for EPN.

Well, to be fair I did say exactly that in the post and did acknowledge that Jon is right about the detail probably being higher. But I don't think execution should lay wayside and of course there are people who have different opinions on what matters at Horror Nights. I'm sure there's an argument to be made in the costumes and sets being more to your liking over last year, but I just prefer atmosphere over those things. Bill and Ted was one of the things that helped give levity to the heavy-handed mood Murdy was putting on the event more and more heavily every year. It seemed that with each one, another piece of comedy/party-flavor/fun was stripped away from the event. Of course that is not what the event should be about, but it helps. Now with Bill and Ted gone, HHN feels like it's probably lost one of its final ingredients that made the event feel well-rounded.

Compare that to Orlando (and Knott's for that matter) with its multiple shows and kinetic energy. (projections on sides of the buildings in the queue lines, for instance) Again, I'm not there and so many people are going to the opening night right now that I feel like I'll be pummeled with feedback but if you can provide reasoning of why this is an improvement that would be awesome.
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Oh I wasn't disagreeing by any means. The Event definitely needs a comedy aspect to it, hell my favorite house from Orlando is a comedy house (Leave it to Cleaver). While it pains me to see B&T gone I honestly think that's out of Murdy's control. Looking at what he has done that past few years it seems he understands that the Event needs some light-heart/comedy aspect to it. From trying to bring Chucky's Insult Emporium back after it was cancelled and doing the hilarious Starway narration for HHN. I guess what i'm trying to say is while that Comedy aspect is gone from our event (Unless Clowns 3D can be considered a comedy Maze...) it seems they have improved a lot of the other shortcomings from last year even though they have added some new ones in the process. Hopefully we will see B&T or some type of show next year but only time will tell. 
 
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Opening night has guests walking to the Metro Sets.
 
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Ok I've been a negative nancy lately but I will say... that Dark Christmas scarezone looks pretty ace and a massive improvement over the Chucky scarezone last year.

That said, a certain website has been way, way too kind. You know which one I'm talking about.
 
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Bill and Ted was one of the things that helped give levity to the heavy-handed mood Murdy was putting on the event more and more heavily every year. It seemed that with each one, another piece of comedy/party-flavor/fun was stripped away from the event. Of course that is not what the event should be about, but it helps. Now with Bill and Ted gone, HHN feels like it's probably lost one of its final ingredients that made the event feel well-rounded.
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This. All of this.

I just got back, but suffice to say, the atmosphere of the event seemed different - and not in a good way. I'll have more to say on this if anyone is interested at a later date.
 
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Do tell!
 
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Ok I've been a negative nancy lately but I will say... that Dark Christmas scarezone looks pretty ace and a massive improvement over the Chucky scarezone last year.

That said, a certain website has been way, way too kind. You know which one I'm talking about.
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I loved Dark Christmas and lots of people I spoke to enjoyed it as well. It's a pretty twisted concept when you think about it. Much perfered over Chucky imho which was just filled with random monsters.
 
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This. All of this.

I just got back, but suffice to say, the atmosphere of the event seemed different - and not in a good way. I'll have more to say on this if anyone is interested at a later date.
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Let me help Jon out and let ya'll know what he thought. Jon had the time of his life. Each maze was a magical experience which made him laugh, cry and sit on the edge of his seat. He can't wait to go back again and again.

There ya go.
 
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