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Jordan Peele's Nope

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While I think this ends up as my least favorite of Peele's 3 major horror movies, though that absolutely isn't a dig at the movie, I still really enjoyed it. I'm not really sure how I feel about the ending, but to be honest I tend to be heavily biased in favor of horror related things having bleak endings, but it works well enough. IMO the crowd abduction scene and the Gordy scene really stole the show, especially as far as horror in the movie goes. In both cases they made me feel really disturbed and uneasy in a way that I haven't had in a theater in a long time, maybe even at all.
 
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Get Out is still Peele's most tightly crafted and well-made film. However, as far as my favorites rankings:
1. Nope
2. Get Out
3. Us
 
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I think “horror-wise” Nope has stuck the most with me compared to other Jordan Peele’s films. There’s a few really striking and disgusting scenes that really got to me…

such as Grody’s scene, the digestion scene, and blood covering Haywood’s house.

I have noticed some people called this movie less “thematic” than other Jordan Peele films and I don’t agree with that personally. Now, I wasn’t fan of Us as much as I was with Get Out, and one of the problems with Us was that it tried to make everything literal. I think I am able to enjoy Nope more simply because there is a lot more the film allows to you think about. There’s a few interesting editing choices that I found interesting. I really appreciated how Jordan Peele pushed himself to create a large cinematic experience with this film. Some of the fear with this film’s main force of evil comes from some amazing sound mixing and design in my opinion.

Overall, I really liked Nope and I thought Jordan Peele did a amazing job at creating a immersive film to some degree.

Last major note I wanted to point out after seeing the film is “lol I don’t think this would work as a HHN house.”
 
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For someone who wasn't very sold on the trailers (and initially worried they spoiled too much), I absolutely adored this film. Can't stop thinking about it.
 
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I'll put my rankings first, and explain why it's present.

1: Us
2: NOPE
3: Get Out

All three are phenomenal films in their own respective rights. But NOPE by far none, is the most disturbing of the three. @MikePat put it best in just how the film kind of clicks. It has the largest scale of Peele's three so-far, and in doing so it compensates that scale by justifying it's two and nearly a half hour runtime to flesh out the dynamic of the ensemble, while also legitimizing the pure unbridled terror that comes from that element of this being a spectacle.

It is genuinely hard for EEAAO to be topped. But NOPE is making it really hard for me to keep EEAAO up on the top spot.

What genuinely and deeply disturbed me about NOPE, is how restrained and yet, terrifying that element of the horror is. Gordy's rampage due to the sound reaction is genuinely hard to watch because of how Peele puts us in the shoes of Nick, how we watch from a small and tiny perspective to just how nature overruled the constant. Even when Gordy showed confusion when he reacted to Nick, it felt genuinely conflicting in the best possible manner.

And to flip that, the absolute limited aspect of the carnage from within The Viewer, was genuinely hard to stay in the theater. Made me squirm intensely by just how they presented it, and how it was handled. If they went further in how the people within would be digested (which I have a theory on it); showing the decompositional aspect, I would've walked my ass to the theater. But the limited style helped me stay in for the entirety of the portion.

It's a genuinely un-nerving film about spectacle, first seen in a limited form from a closed set, to then have the wide form of trying to use something that couldn't be controlled, as a star attraction. And I am glad to see Peele being able to go as far as he can with it.
 
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MikePat said:
I have noticed some people called this movie less “thematic” than other Jordan Peele films and I don’t agree with that personally. Now, I wasn’t fan of Us as much as I was with Get Out, and one of the problems with Us was that it tried to make everything literal. I think I am able to enjoy Nope more simply because there is a lot more the film allows to you think about. There’s a few interesting editing choices that I found interesting. I really appreciated how Jordan Peele pushed himself to create a large cinematic experience with this film. Some of the fear with this film’s main force of evil comes from some amazing sound mixing and design in my opinion.
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Total agreement on Nope not being any less thematic. There's fascinating themes and ideas at play here, it's just not in a tidy metaphorical package like it was in Get Out or Us. There's so much stuff here about the nature of spectacle, media circuses, the inability to look away from tragedy, the film camera and what it represents, cinematic reality vs perceived reality, etc. Reminds me of a Kubrick film in just how much random crap you can read into it and how the symbology constantly shifts and alters as characters slip between roles of spectator and spectacle. (Also can I just say I love that Jordan Peele keeps his targets the film and media industry and doesn't even touch social media because that would've tipped the film into feeling like dunking on easy targets. It really feels personal because he's taking aim at what he knows and can comment on in a literate, articulate way).

I mean, Jordan Peele put a random woman through probably five or so hours of makeup just for like, two shots! And it ends up being both an important symbol of America's obsession with gawking at tragedy (it's a visual reference to an infamous segment of Oprah) and, in the literal context of the film, a deeply tragic reminder of just how badly damaged Steven Yeun's character's psyche is! Because he's bringing back his old co-star to essentially watch him "undo" the traumatic incident that scarred them both! He does all of this without even using dialog!

But it's also just an amazing blockbuster??? I was pleasantly surprised when Top Gun Maverick made its moneyshots images of natural beauty like swirling clouds and the sun rising over the horizon, but NOPE absolutely destroys it in this department. The sky has never looked so threatening, but it's still just the gd sky. Genuinely in awe that a movie with this level of budget can be like this. I know it's opening lower than US but I really hope and pray that it legs out and makes so much money because I want Peele to get a 100m budget in the next five years.
 
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I think the divisive is due to the fact Mr Peele did not beat it over the head. So much online conversation is I didn't understand the gordy scene. This movie didn't have any message. This movie was so confusing.....

Because Mr Peele did used the show don't tell aspect, it has lead to divisiveness but his best film. I think this film will be remembered for a long long long time and appreciated later on compared to the other two films.
 
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What genuinely and deeply disturbed me about NOPE, is how restrained and yet, terrifying that element of the horror is. Gordy's rampage due to the sound reaction is genuinely hard to watch because of how Peele puts us in the shoes of Nick, how we watch from a small and tiny perspective to just how nature overruled the constant. Even when Gordy showed confusion when he reacted to Nick, it felt genuinely conflicting in the best possible manner.

And to flip that, the absolute limited aspect of the carnage from within The Viewer, was genuinely hard to stay in the theater. Made me squirm intensely by just how they presented it, and how it was handled. If they went further in how the people within would be digested (which I have a theory on it); showing the decompositional aspect, I would've walked my ass to the theater. But the limited style helped me stay in for the entirety of the portion.

It's a genuinely un-nerving film about spectacle, first seen in a limited form from a closed set, to then have the wide form of trying to use something that couldn't be controlled, as a star attraction. And I am glad to see Peele being able to go as far as he can with it.
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You gotta share that theory about how people within would be digested. I'm curious!

Overall, I think Peele has another hit on his hands. I love a movie that makes you really talk about it on the car ride home in an intelligent way. My only gripe was the finish. It felt like it was either missing one last punch, or a few minutes to cool down. But then again, I could just be holding it to.a higher standard because of how much I loved the dual endings to Get Out..

I'm hoping to rewatch Get Out and Us again soon so I can properly rank the three. Either way, well worth the trip to your theater to see this movie!
 
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Yes yes yes to this.

I can't remember the last time I felt as uncomfortable as I did with the Gordy and abduction scenes here.
 
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quinnmac000 said:
Because Mr Peele did used the show don't tell aspect, it has lead to divisiveness but his best film. I think this film will be remembered for a long long long time and appreciated later on compared to the other two films.
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Like the more I think about NOPE, the more I absolutely am enthralled by how good it is, especially with how open and wide it is with the show approach. It's a film that I can't stop thinking about, and a film that I genuinely wonder if this might set a spark in how creature features are handled for the next few years, in how it wove a genuinely fantastic balance between the two.

Bort said:
You gotta share that theory about how people within would be digested. I'm curious!
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To me, The Viewer is a predatorial and yet, territorial creature and entity. It's rules, seem simple. If sound is large enough to emit, alongside in physicals things that can see and spot the creature, it will detect it and aim to protect it's territory, or to eat. The caveat to this creature, is that it can only act to who is active, when that presence detects the creature.

A dual-way communication, similar to parasitism. And we can even see that with how the creature has two evolved forms. The first, resembling that of a stingray or a manta stingray without it's tail, will swoop down and like a stingray, scoop up what it can eat through the suction of the area around it. From then and there, it will then envelop and ensnare those who are within it's digestive tract, decompressing and suffocating the physical bodies but leaving the essence and the soul of those who it consumes. Be that animals or humans.

It can then use that essence as the souls are consumed by The Viewer, as a means to taunt those who try to defy it, and discard elements that it cannot decompose healthily. The second form, then expands and enlarges, becoming more like a giant jellyfish with it's tendrils now completely exposed, but it's mouth acting like a rattlesnake or a Venus flytrap. The method of this death would as opposed to being more lasting and more painful would be swift and quick. But it flaunts itself, revealing itself as a warning to those who would wish to defy it.
 
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This interview confirms some of the themes....

Steven and Jordan are stating the film is about people in the industry and how starting out you are exploited erased and destroyed by the system unless you have a secure team.
 
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Just got back from seeing this, and the short of the long version is this was flat-out stellar!

As for the long version, I was really curious to see how Peele would handle a big Summer Spectacle, and he did it very well in ways I didn't expect. Many have mentioned "Show, don't Tell" which Peele does quite a bit to great use. But I'll bring up he also employs the tactic of "Show just enough, but let your Audience fill in the blanks", this is a very effective tactic and holy crap does it make the more infamous scenes in this film all the more unnerving and terrifying!

There is one particular scene which damn near put me into an anxiety attack, and it's not a graphic scene. It just uses those tactics so well and personally for me it's one of the scariest things I've seen in a theater in a long while. Naturally your milage may vary on it, but I'm noticing it doing its job of freaking people out.

Also, A+ sound design with this film. For a film that employs the above tactics, the sound really adds to the film. There are some generally freaky soundscapes, and some which get more disturbing as the film goes on once you gain new info.

All in all, I really enjoyed this! It's a fine Summer Blockbuster and there's a good amount to discuss about this film like the various themes it presents, and that's always a nice takeaway.

And yeah, I'm also in the boat where you really can't make a HHN house out of this for obvious multiple reasons.
 
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Listen I'm not saying it'd be a good idea to make this an entire HHN house, but I am saying that after this movie, I'll flip my s--- if a chimp scareactor so much as breathes in the same room as me.
 
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Listen I'm not saying it'd be a good idea to make this an entire HHN house, but I am saying that after this movie, I'll flip my s--- if a chimp so much as breathes in the same room as me in an HHN house.
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Chris Kattan as Gordy confirmed for HHN
 
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Without spoiling, is this more Peele dragging out tension and less/basically zero jump scares, or should I expect a lot of jump scares? I can’t stand those typically.
 
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Without spoiling, is this more Peele dragging out tension and less/basically zero jump scares, or should I expect a lot of jump scares? I can’t stand those typically.
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There are two jump scares....but the rest is tension.
 
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There are two jump scares....but the rest is tension.
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Okay good to know, this is gonna be epic at the drive in lol
 
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So I'm gonna put this in Spoilers because of the recency, but Peele didn't have to go this far.

 
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Love it! Looks like the show takes place in Florida. The husband/father is a NASA scientist, the wife/mother is an astronaut, and Gordy is one of the chimps that was used in the space program or was going to be used until the family decided to bring him home. Show likely took place after Kid Sheriff since Ricky already has the nickname of Jupe ( his characters’ name in that film franchise).
 
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Like to me this was the dumbest thing ever.....however it is filmed so well and acted so serious that is works.....but yeah the big creature to me is just...stupid looking but once again the film was great.

Think Us, is still my favorite film from him so far. But this was well done

It had lots of tension but want to see how i feel watching it a second time. The Chimp stuff was brutal to watch and the main cast really sold these characters
 
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