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Pandora: The World of Avatar Announcement, Construction, & Preview Discussion

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Supposedly people here "in the know" knew there would be a Gringotts ride in 2010 if not earlier. HTF was posting about the Kong ride here long before the first scoop of dirt was moved. Why is the Universal method of announcing things shortly before they are done better than the Disney method of announcing before they ever get started? I never really understood why one way is better than the other.
 
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fryoj said:
Supposedly people here "in the know" knew there would be a Gringotts ride in 2010 if not earlier. HTF was posting about the Kong ride here long before the first scoop of dirt was moved. Why is the Universal method of announcing things shortly before they are done better than the Disney method of announcing before they ever get started? I never really understood why one way is better than the other.
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Because it is easier to ride the hype train from announcement to completion if the span is shorter. Pandora, The Land of Avatar's hype train has been sitting idle mid-run for 2 years.
 
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fryoj said:
Supposedly people here "in the know" knew there would be a Gringotts ride in 2010 if not earlier. HTF was posting about the Kong ride here long before the first scoop of dirt was moved. Why is the Universal method of announcing things shortly before they are done better than the Disney method of announcing before they ever get started? I never really understood why one way is better than the other.
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Pure psychology. Yes it's a weird difference, but a slight one.
 
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fryoj said:
Supposedly people here "in the know" knew there would be a Gringotts ride in 2010 if not earlier. HTF was posting about the Kong ride here long before the first scoop of dirt was moved. Why is the Universal method of announcing things shortly before they are done better than the Disney method of announcing before they ever get started? I never really understood why one way is better than the other.
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General Public-wise, they get a lot more excited when a exciting new attraction is announced, and that they can ride it soon/next Summer etc. It'll stay fresh in people's minds and a park like Universal can take advantage of that because people will be making a trip to the park next summer for that exciting new attraction.

But when something is announced 5-6 six years in advance...it's not exactly going to stay in the general public's mind for the entire span. An' honestly you don't want a quiet span between announcing a big attraction and it opening, since quiet spans can lead to sites wondering if the whole thing has been cancelled or not...which doesn't help the hype train whatsoever.
 
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Well it took 8 years for Disneyland to build haunted mansion. All those years of slowly teasing it when they didn't know exactly what the final product was. Finally the day it opened Disneyland had 85,000 people show up at the park and it's recorded as one of their highest attendance days ever.

Let's step back and take a look at things. The mistake about announcing it early will all be forgotten when an amazingly detailed land opens up with 2 new attractions. Couple that with Rivers of Light which will be a hard to get into show for the first few years it opens. Don't worry about publicity. Disney will create the marketing and Animal Kingdom will break its own attendance records.

Let's put this "mistake" business behind us. Does anyone have any real inside info on this area?
 
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darkridelover said:
Well it took 8 years for Disneyland to build haunted mansion. All those years of slowly teasing it when they didn't know exactly what the final product was. Finally the day it opened Disneyland had 85,000 people show up at the park and it's recorded as one of their highest attendance days ever.

Let's step back and take a look at things. The mistake about announcing it early will all be forgotten when an amazingly detailed land opens up with 2 new attractions. Couple that with Rivers of Light which will be a hard to get into show for the first few years it opens. Don't worry about publicity. Disney will create the marketing and Animal Kingdom will break its own attendance records.

Let's put this "mistake" business behind us. Does anyone have any real inside info on this area?
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difference is you didn't have the internet and forum sites back then to disillusion you from the realities of how long its taking.
 
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darkridelover said:
Well it took 8 years for Disneyland to build haunted mansion. All those years of slowly teasing it when they didn't know exactly what the final product was. Finally the day it opened Disneyland had 85,000 people show up at the park and it's recorded as one of their highest attendance days ever.

Let's step back and take a look at things. The mistake about announcing it early will all be forgotten when an amazingly detailed land opens up with 2 new attractions. Couple that with Rivers of Light which will be a hard to get into show for the first few years it opens. Don't worry about publicity. Disney will create the marketing and Animal Kingdom will break its own attendance records.

Let's put this "mistake" business behind us. Does anyone have any real inside info on this area?
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You cannot compare HM to Avatar or any current projects. WALT DIED. Imagineering was much smaller. Etc.
 
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why? the movie made a gazillion dollars and the next three will too
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The problem is, Avatar just doesn't have the rabid fan base that Star Wars does, or Harry Potter. Do you see Avatar Celebration conventions? Do people cosplay Avatar characters? Are there toys and other merchandise, books, and magazines, etc, for Avatar? No.
 
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I highly doubt the sequels will make half the buzz of the first movie unless each one finds a new way to innovate
 
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Plus, the HM was put on hold while they worked on the WF for 3 years, and then Pirates. When Walt died no one knew what direction to take the project in and you had competing camps
 
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Still doesn't change the fact that after 8 years of delays the park had record attendance on Haunted Mansions opening day.
 
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Well, Walt had been mentioning it on TV a lot over the 8 years. I just see that kind of excitement for Pandora.
 
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Disneyhead said:
Well, Walt had been mentioning it on TV a lot over the 8 years. I just see that kind of excitement for Pandora.
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wesh did a story on it yesterday
 
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darkridelover said:
Still doesn't change the fact that after 8 years of delays the park had record attendance on Haunted Mansions opening day.
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*points at other additions that didn't appease TDO in attendance not designed and built over eight years*

Give up the fight, bro.
 
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testtrack321 said:
*points at other additions that didn't appease TDO in attendance not designed and built over eight years*

Give up the fight, bro.
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I agree some people cant seem to move on from things despite constantly being given facts
 
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No way Avatar attacts "Potter" opening day crowds, unless Disney markets the crap out of it, and ALL the Disney Nerds show up. However, considering a lot of the Disney nerds seem "less enthused" about this attraction, I don't even know if they will show up. At least not all on opening day.

There are no Avatar nerds, or if there are, they are a very small minority.

There will probably be more people at Star Wars Weekends then at the Avatar opening...
 
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Yeah, I am shocked that "YOUR FLYING CAMERA" wasn't arrested in the parking lots of both Universal or Disney. I assume everyone saw the Universal video too.

http://youtu.be/Vf7z0D6JvYM
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I rest my case. Click the link now...

http://youtu.be/Vf7z0D6JvYM
 
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Says video is unavailable. I assume it's him getting in trouble?
 
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Says video is unavailable. I assume it's him getting in trouble?
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Something transpired. It was going to happen. Launching an aerial vehicle on a parks own private property is such a horrid ignorant childish thing to have done.

There is a great drone video launched from private residential property over UOR still available on youtube. I have no reason to think that it will be deleted, ever.
 
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Teebin said:
Something transpired. It was going to happen. Launching an aerial vehicle on a parks own private property is such a horrid ignorant childish thing to have done.

There is a great drone video launched from private residential property over UOR still available on youtube. I have no reason to think that it will be deleted, ever.
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Here here. Really pleased something (whatever is was) has been done about this, hopefully it make other morons think twice before pulling such risky stunts.
 
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