you would think someone at disney would see this, the fact that it never is mentioned is amazingThe line should have been drawn several miles back, but it's never going to be drawn because WDI is wildly out of control and in need of a reorg.
you would think someone at disney would see this, the fact that it never is mentioned is amazingThe line should have been drawn several miles back, but it's never going to be drawn because WDI is wildly out of control and in need of a reorg.
I'd say it doesn't help when you have the entire theme park community(basically) gushing over Diagon Alley that is..... two rides in a highly immersive environment. Couple that with how well Cars land was received, another immersive environment with limited rides. The success of Potter is going to push us to more lands like this.
You're not wrong, but the anchor rides of those two expansions are huge advancements in themed rides and compelling weenies that feature far more relevant and compelling IPs. The immersion of Harry Potter, specifically, highlights a desire of the fans to BE wizards, and everything about those expansions allows them to do that.I'd say it doesn't help when you have the entire theme park community(basically) gushing over Diagon Alley that is..... two rides in a highly immersive environment. Couple that with how well Cars land was received, another immersive environment with limited rides. The success of Potter is going to push us to more lands like this.
I think the problem people aren't really addressing (at least I haven't really seen it) is a question of narrative. The screens work in Shanghai's Pirates because of the ridiculous scale and spreed of the story. It's essentially Spider-Man on water and so screens are basically the only way to make everything flow effectively. Nothing about the way Disney is branding Avatar leads us to believe the boat ride will anywhere near as "fast." I think that's why the people who are put off by screens in that ride are put off. It would be like using the Spider-man ride system for Cat in the Hat. Sure, you can do it, but is it actually the best way to tell your story?
You're not wrong, but the anchor rides of those two expansions are huge advancements in themed rides and compelling weenies that feature far more relevant and compelling IPs. The immersion of Harry Potter, specifically, highlights a desire of the fans to BE wizards, and everything about those expansions allows them to do that.
Avatar features a boat ride and an inverted simulator that, while are likely going to be enjoyable, I doubt will set new standards or actually blow away expectations.
no the boat ride was never going to be axed in fact it was plussed since the leaked plansWith all the uncertainty a couple of years ago over whether the boat ride would happen at all, is the reason for the length some pretty savage cuts compared to the original design simply to ensure it happened in some form rather than being axed? Is this really NRJ-lite?
I can't say if you are right or wrong here, but I do know that around 2012-2013 there were a lot of creative issues surrounding the project with many disagreements between James Cameron and WDI.no the boat ride was never going to be axed in fact it was plussed since the leaked plans
I think the problem people aren't really addressing (at least I haven't really seen it) is a question of narrative. The screens work in Shanghai's Pirates because of the ridiculous scale and spreed of the story. It's essentially Spider-Man on water and so screens are basically the only way to make everything flow effectively. Nothing about the way Disney is branding Avatar leads us to believe the boat ride will anywhere near as "fast." I think that's why the people who are put off by screens in that ride are put off. It would be like using the Spider-man ride system for Cat in the Hat. Sure, you can do it, but is it actually the best way to tell your story?
With all the uncertainty a couple of years ago over whether the boat ride would happen at all, is the reason for the length some pretty savage cuts compared to the original design simply to ensure it happened in some form rather than being axed? Is this really NRJ-lite?
It's not even pretty rockwork. There are almost no details sculpted in most of the rockwork because most of it is covered with plants.It sounds like Avatar is more about the pretty rockwork than the rides. I hate that. Just like I didn't like New Fantasyland at all. Sure, it's pretty to look at, but I come for the immersive rides every time and New Fantasyland definitely dissapoints. At least both Harry Potter lands have a revolutionary ride. I sure hope Avatar will be expanded in the future with a big revolutionary new E-ticket without spending an enourmous amount on the rockwork on the outside.
Considering the new norm is 1 new ride per land, I think Pandora has a pretty impressive formula. Think we are going to be very very surprised by these attractions.It sounds like Avatar is more about the pretty rockwork than the rides. I hate that. Just like I didn't like New Fantasyland at all.
Considering the new norm is 1 new ride per land, I think Pandora has a pretty impressive formula. Think we are going to be very very surprised by these attractions.