The Future of Lost Continent (Poseidon Fury closing May 9)

[AlexanderMBush]

This and the JP postponement are related.

There will probably be more cuts coming.

This legitimately makes no sense, unless the tariff situation is making constructing Park 3 so costly that it's needed.

Perhaps it's as someone pointed out on the Jurassic Expansion thread; to where the cost of acquiring Sky is going to affect development on some aspects of Universal Parks and Resorts for the time being?

 

[JungleSkip]

Perhaps it's as someone pointed out on the Jurassic Expansion thread; to where the cost of acquiring Sky is going to affect development on some aspects of Universal Parks and Resorts for the time being?

AFAIK the "cuts" that have been mandated are because "F&F didn't do what we thought it would" and are not coming from Comcast, but internal UOR management. I thought the talk about it was ridiculous, but obviously it's not. I don't think the JP coaster has anything to do with them FWIW

I think it's UOR management way overreacting to one flat year.

 

[Disneyhead]

AFAIK the "cuts" that have been mandated are because "F&F didn't do what we thought it would" and are not coming from Comcast, but internal UOR management. I thought the talk about it was ridiculous, but obviously it's not. I don't think the JP coaster has anything to do with them FWIW

I think it's UOR management way overreacting to one flat year.

It is internal.

One of the "theme" parks missed projections by a lot.

 

[fallingends]

That would be really disappointing if this just about cuts and not to getting rid of the Lost Comtinet for a IP like Zelda or something else.

 

[JungleSkip]

It is internal.

One of the "theme" parks missed projections by a lot.

It's because their projections were moronic.

Also doesn't help that they won't admit that TapuTapu is the problem.

 

[JungleSkip]

That would be really disappointing if this just about cuts and not to getting rid of the Lost Comtinet for a IP like Zelda or something else.

The land is still earmarked for replacement. I'd imagine on the same timeline as it was. The show closing now is ahead of that timeline and seemingly for budgetary reasons

 

[Legacy]

It is internal.

One of the "theme" parks missed projections by a lot.

So, I'm hearing the same thing you are.

Simply incredible, really.

 

[Magic-Man]

It is internal.

One of the "theme" parks missed projections by a lot.

How?! Volcano Bay seems to be packed almost all the time. And it's a water-park, they shouldn't expect IOA/USF-level attendance.

 

[Teebin]

So the themepark missing projections is volcano bay?

 

[JungleSkip]

So, I'm hearing the same thing you are.

Simply incredible, really.

It's unfathomable, tbh.

How?! Volcano Bay seems to be packed almost all the time. And it's a water-park, they shouldn't expect IOA/USF-level attendance.

They probably way undershot the operating cost for a real water park.

EDIT: TapuTapu is also a weight on the place. When the park is packed, TapuTapu makes it seem like people can't do anything in the park without a 2 hour wait, which upsets people. Upset people don't spend money on food, drinks, and merch. They leave and demand a refund.

Parks don't make their money on admission. They make it on the stuff they sell inside.

 

[AlexanderMBush]

How?! Volcano Bay seems to be packed almost all the time. And it's a water-park, they shouldn't expect IOA/USF-level attendance.

Under-estimating costs for operations of a water park might have things to do with it.

If that's the case..that's something.

 

[Ryan]

EDIT: TapuTapu is also a weight on the place. When the park is packed, TapuTapu makes it seem like people can't do anything in the park without a 2 hour wait, which upsets people. Upset people don't spend money on food, drinks, and merch. They leave and demand a refund.

Parks don't make their money on admission. They make it on the stuff they sell inside.

I’m astounded it’s still there. Purely stunned.

 

[JungleSkip]

I’m astounded it’s still there. Purely stunned.

I'm not. When you're a powerful decision maker, it's really, really hard to admit you were wrong.

I'm more surprised that Comcast/Universal brass hasn't made any changes to the resort leadership.

 

[Alicia]

Thanks, Euro-Disney ... Thanks, Shanghai ... Thanks, Volcano Bay.

The tradition continues.

 

[Disneyhead]

Thanks, Euro-Disney ... Thanks, Shanghai ... Thanks, Volcano Bay.

The tradition continues.

DCA's nickname for it's first 10 years was "Heroin Monkey".

 

[AlexanderMBush]

DCA's nickname for it's first 10 years was "Heroin Monkey".

Those are..those are words?

 

[Clive]

Pretty baffling that we're about to have one of the world's most attended theme parks saddled with two massive empty theaters.

Just astounding mismanagement.

 

[Alicia]

Pretty baffling that we're about to have one of the world's most attended theme parks saddled with two massive empty theaters.

Just astounding mismanagement.

To be fair, the Sindbad theater is practically empty on a daily basis, only clearing around 1600 guests a day. Even Fear Factor sees at least a few thousand guests a day.

 

[Disneyhead]

Those are..those are words?

It comes from the phrase "Heroin Monkey on your back". Also known as a "Money Pit".

I would expect an addition and some operational changes sooner rather than later.

 

[Clive]

To be fair, the Sindbad theater is practically empty on a daily basis, only clearing around 1600 guests a day. Even Fear Factor sees at least a few thousand guests a day.

They'd get a better bang for their buck if they developed a show with any quality.

I'm not debating that the show doesn't justify its high operating cost. I'm saying 1) they should've put a worthwhile show in that venue years ago and 2) one of the most successful theme park resorts in the world should not be making cuts to save management skins after they made boneheaded projections.