WGA & SAG Strike of 2023

[Jake S]

i love that variety doesn’t even bother to put that in quotes in the tweet. really a-grade stuff.

 

[Michael S]

"final"

Darn it. Just what I was predicting.

 

[belloq87]

Whoever leaked that "best and final" wording should be tossed out a window, because -- even though what I've read indicates that's kind of a standard legalese phrase that may actually indicate a contract (overseen by lawyers from both sides, as has been reported) is imminent -- it sends a terrible message when you see it just as a blunt headline.

Thankfully, the two entities put out another joint statement after that saying they're meeting again on Sunday.

 

[saint.piss]

Thank god

 

[Michael S]

Thank god

It’s not over yet, still needs ratification. Let’s hope it’s a fair deal that the majority of the membership feels is worthy of ratification.

Believe me, my livelihood is dependent on our industry getting back to work, so I’m hoping for the absolute best here!!!

 

[Viator]

Recognize WBA/CNS Production Workers Now!

On July 19th, 86 production workers at Warner Bros. Animation (WBA) and Cartoon Network Studios (CNS) made a demand for voluntary union recognition. Since then, the company has continued to stall and refuses to accept that a super-majority of production workers at WBA/CNS want to be represented...

actionnetwork.org

Posting this here, as even once it is said and done--there are still more fights to be won.

 

[Jerroddragon]

A video of what happening right now, I hope they can stick the landing

 

[Viator]

SAG-AFTRA Members Approve Video Game Strike Authorization Vote With 98.32% Yes Vote

Members approve IMA Video Game Strike Authorization 2023

www.sagaftra.org

 

[Cup_Of_Coffee]

SNL seems to be eyeing an October return, the cast would seem to be able to work, so they choose.

The show is looking at non SAG, so a lot of Tik tok, Kardashians, Atheltes, musicians, or reality stars for the first few shows at least. Could be interesting!

 

[saint.piss]

Now time for actors to get their due


Also here's the contract:

 

[Viator]

Holy freaking W

 

[rageofthegods]

STREAMING TRANSPARENCY AND VIEWERSHIP RESIDUALS LFG

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

I guess my main question is if all the viewership metrics are stilly remaining internal to these various companies, what's to keep them from consistently and systematically low-balling on the actual number of watched hours, given that they have a financial incentive to keep them artificially low?

EDIT: Obviously congratulations to the writers.
EDIT 2: More specific verbiage from the agreement itself

 

[Michael S]

I guess my main question is if all the viewership metrics are stilly remaining internal to these various companies, what's to keep them from consistently and systematically low-balling on the actual number of watched hours, given that they have a financial incentive to keep them artificially low?

EDIT: Obviously congratulations to the writers.
EDIT 2: More specific verbiage from the agreement itself
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They’ve done “creative accounting” for years to keep actors, writers and directors from getting fair payment for residuals or shares of profits. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll do something similar, unfortunately.

 

[rageofthegods]

They’ve done “creative accounting” for years to keep actors, writers and directors from getting fair payment for residuals or shares of profits. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll do something similar, unfortunately.

It's a little better here because we do already have trusted-ish third parties monitoring viewership (Nielsen) and it's a pretty cut and dry formula with publicly available numbers, vs "profitability" which is always gonna be more nebulous and subject to insane overhead amortization schemes.

 

[Michael S]

It's a little better here because we do already have trusted-ish third parties monitoring viewership (Nielsen) and it's a pretty cut and dry formula with publicly available numbers, vs "profitability" which is always gonna be more nebulous and subject to insane overhead amortization schemes.

Aren’t we talking about streaming and not traditional television broadcasts?

 

[rageofthegods]

Aren’t we talking about streaming and not traditional television broadcasts?

Yeah, but Nielsen does actually monitor streaming and releases some numbers (limited and delayed by 4 weeks): Top Ten | Nielsen

IIRC the reason why we don't get more comprehensive numbers is mostly because the companies don't want them released.

 

[Michael S]

Yeah, but Nielsen does actually monitor streaming and releases some numbers (limited and delayed by 4 weeks): Top Ten | Nielsen

IIRC the reason why we don't get more comprehensive numbers is mostly because the companies don't want them released.

Oh interesting, I didn’t know they did that. That’s a good way to (hopefully) keep them in check.

 

[Jerroddragon]

I hope this works out for everyone, I'm glad this is done and just want movies to be made and everyone profiting from them more

 

[saint.piss]

Wow.... truly awful villainous behavior