Wizarding World - Diagon Alley Discussion (Opens 2014)

[Brian G.]

Here's a thought.

If LC is to be completely taken over, maybe Universal will do away with the Sinbad building entirely, and use Poseidon's Fury as it's locale for the new ride and have more space for some Forbidden Forrest and DA.

 

[Frogki]

I really like your ideas Briman! And possibly for the transition, as I said earlier, a Hogwarts Express walkthrough. If someone doesn't want to do that, they'd have to go without a transition...

I think a full blown expansion into LC could be split into three sections - London/ Ministry of Magic and Kings Cross, Diagon Alley (starting in the Leaky Cauldron in London?), possibly a small expansion of Hogsmeade into LC, and if we can place it somewhere logically correct (everyone here knows that the FF wouldn't belong in front of Hogsmeade, it would need to be near the castle...).

 

[grizzlybarely]

I know we've got a lot of people who are for the Gringott's coaster concept. I'm just wondering how thought-out this idea is (if it has been, please help me understand). IOA isn't an amusement park; it's a theme park, meaning this Gringott's attraction cannot be a roller coaster with Potter theming. It must be an experience with roller coaster technology as its story-telling "vehicle" (pardon the pun). So, because this Gringott's concept is to be included in the most immersive theme park environment in recent years, it cannot be so just because the cart in the stories resembles a roller coaster. What is the experience? Are we at Gringott's on business? Is there an important artifact there we must retrieve? What kind of peril would we experience?

I'm sorry if I come across as repetitive or annoyed; I don't mean to convey that. And I'm not casting judgment; I genuinely want to understand the logic behind this idea. I do believe that DA is the best way a WWOHP expansion can happen. But if Gringott's is to be the best experience a DA expansion would offer, it certainly should be more than a rollicking mine ride through caves. WWOHP deserves better than that.

 

[Frogki]

I know we've got a lot of people who are for the Gringott's coaster concept. I'm just wondering how thought-out this idea is (if it has been, please help me understand). IOA isn't an amusement park; it's a theme park, meaning this Gringott's attraction cannot be a roller coaster with Potter theming. It must be an experience with roller coaster technology as its story-telling "vehicle" (pardon the pun). So, because this Gringott's concept is to be included in the most immersive theme park environment in recent years, it cannot be so just because the cart in the stories resembles a roller coaster. What is the experience? Are we at Gringott's on business? Is there an important artifact there we must retrieve? What kind of peril would we experience?

I'm sorry if I come across as repetitive or annoyed; I don't mean to convey that. And I'm not casting judgment; I genuinely want to understand the logic behind this idea. I do believe that DA is the best way a WWOHP expansion can happen. But if Gringott's is to be the best experience a DA expansion would offer, it certainly should be more than a rollicking mine ride through caves. WWOHP deserves better than that.

Well, in the first movie, Hagrid had to take Harry to his vault, and then to get the Sorcerer's Stone. Possibly we could be going to our own vaults to put in some money, although that story line is very loose. What could be a really good storyline would be a DH themed storyline, where we're going on a tour of Gringotts esteemed bank, and suddenly we learn of the break in, and a goblin is taking us to check it out. We would encounter the Dragon and probably Harry, Ron, Hermione and the events that happened in the vault. We see the crowd of goblins gather, and suddenly watch as Harry, Ron, and Hermione fly out...

That is, of course, my idea. I'm sure there are quite a few more story lines that are original as well as fun...

 

[Hatetofly]

I know we've got a lot of people who are for the Gringott's coaster concept. I'm just wondering how thought-out this idea is (if it has been, please help me understand). IOA isn't an amusement park; it's a theme park, meaning this Gringott's attraction cannot be a roller coaster with Potter theming. It must be an experience with roller coaster technology as its story-telling "vehicle" (pardon the pun). So, because this Gringott's concept is to be included in the most immersive theme park environment in recent years, it cannot be so just because the cart in the stories resembles a roller coaster. What is the experience? Are we at Gringott's on business? Is there an important artifact there we must retrieve? What kind of peril would we experience?

I'm sorry if I come across as repetitive or annoyed; I don't mean to convey that. And I'm not casting judgment; I genuinely want to understand the logic behind this idea. I do believe that DA is the best way a WWOHP expansion can happen. But if Gringott's is to be the best experience a DA expansion would offer, it certainly should be more than a rollicking mine ride through caves. WWOHP deserves better than that.

I would imagine Mummy 3.0 if Gringotts is our ride.

 

[TSSD]

I really like your ideas Briman! And possibly for the transition, as I said earlier, a Hogwarts Express walkthrough. If someone doesn't want to do that, they'd have to go without a transition...

And what will the explination be? Oh, you somehow managed to move hundreds of miles in a few seconds? Trust me, if there is a phase 2, it will NOT be Diagon Alley, or London.

possibly a small expansion of Hogsmeade into LC, and if we can place it somewhere logically correct (everyone here knows that the FF wouldn't belong in front of Hogsmeade, it would need to be near the castle...).

Now notice, you are the first person besides me and Damond to even mention those two brilliant ideas. Everyone is just obsessing too much over the completely illogical DA.

 

[JungleSkip]

And what will the explination be? Oh, you somehow managed to move hundreds of miles in a few seconds?

Like managing to move from London to Arabia or a dinosaur filled jungle?

Trust me, if there is a phase 2, it will NOT be Diagon Alley, or London.

We shall see.

 

[TSSD]

Like managing to move from London to Arabia or a dinosaur filled jungle?

That is completely different!!! Those are three completely different lands. DA would be in the same exact land as Hogsmeade, so it would need to make some sense!!!

 

[JungleSkip]

That is completely different!!! Those are three completely different lands. DA would be in the same exact land as Hogsmeade, so it would need to make some sense!!!

We shall see.

The original Lost Continent had those jumps.

 

[TSSD]

The original Lost Continent had those jumps.

But the original LC didn't have to please the Greek gods, Arabian kings, and King Arthur in order to be made.

 

[JungleSkip]

But the original LC didn't have to please the Greek gods, Arabian kings, and King Arthur in order to be made.

You're right. But I also think you're assuming that Jo is going to be some complete hardass about everything. She's an exceptionally rational human being that will realize that this is a theme park we're talking about. And she'll realize that it's never going to be completely 100% accurate or possible.

 

[mantaguy]

The original Lost Continent was a "land of mythic gods and legends." It had every right to draw sources from many places.

A couple pages ago, someone said that in the interview, they said Diagon Alley wouldn't be able to stand alone, and that was a misquote. In the interview they say that including Diagon Alley with Hogmeade and Hogwarts would ruin the feeling of complete immersion, which is what TSSD and I have been saying all along.

 

[TSSD]

You're right. But I also think you're assuming that Jo is going to be some complete hardass about everything. She's an exceptionally rational human being that will realize that this is a theme park we're talking about. And she'll realize that it's never going to be completely 100% accurate or possible.

But she wouldn't approve unless it was at least slightly plausible. Which DA, no matter what you do, could not be. She loves HP too much.

 

[JungleSkip]

But she wouldn't approve unless it was at least slightly plausible. Which DA, no matter what you do, could not be. She loves HP too much.

We'll see.

 

[TSSD]

We'll see.

Yup we will see. That I'm right.

 

[JungleSkip]

No need to get testy.

 

[VacationTalkRocks!]

You're right. But I also think you're assuming that Jo is going to be some complete hardass about everything. She's an exceptionally rational human being that will realize that this is a theme park we're talking about. And she'll realize that it's never going to be completely 100% accurate or possible.

:iagree: A quote from the interview video:
“One of the great things about Jo is she understands that the films are different from the books, and she understands the theme park is different from the books. And she is one of the most generous of collaborators, encouraging Universal and the entire team doing whatever they can within the opportunities as they present themselves within the theme park.”

 

[zbob1992]

Hey guys since its been talked about so much I though I'd post my plans for a WWOHP expansion. Here it is complete with Gringotts Mine Coaster http://www.orlandounited.com/forums/showthread.php?5564-My-Idea-for-the-WWOHP-Expansion

 

[VacationTalkRocks!]

I know we've got a lot of people who are for the Gringott's coaster concept. I'm just wondering how thought-out this idea is (if it has been, please help me understand). IOA isn't an amusement park; it's a theme park, meaning this Gringott's attraction cannot be a roller coaster with Potter theming. It must be an experience with roller coaster technology as its story-telling "vehicle" (pardon the pun). So, because this Gringott's concept is to be included in the most immersive theme park environment in recent years, it cannot be so just because the cart in the stories resembles a roller coaster. What is the experience? Are we at Gringott's on business? Is there an important artifact there we must retrieve? What kind of peril would we experience?

I'm sorry if I come across as repetitive or annoyed; I don't mean to convey that. And I'm not casting judgment; I genuinely want to understand the logic behind this idea. I do believe that DA is the best way a WWOHP expansion can happen. But if Gringott's is to be the best experience a DA expansion would offer, it certainly should be more than a rollicking mine ride through caves. WWOHP deserves better than that.

But aren't FOTH and DC basically roller coasters with HP theming? How would a Gringotts themed coaster be any less acceptable?

And there could be peril at Gringotts if peril were needed. Bellatrix's vault with the curse creating an avalanche of multiplying objects that Harry and friends must escape comes straight from the 7th book. I'm sure the creative minds at Uni could do a lot with that. I think a Gringott's coaster would be a blast. But maybe if they didn't want to go the coaster route something along the lines of the Spiderman ride with a Gringotts theme could be an option. Gringotts just offers so many possibilities, I'd love to see them do something with it.

 

[zbob1992]

But aren't FOTH and DC basically roller coasters with HP theming? How would a Gringotts themed coaster be any less acceptable?

And there could be peril at Gringotts if peril were needed. Bellatrix's vault with the curse creating an avalanche of multiplying objects that Harry and friends must escape comes straight from the 7th book. I'm sure the creative minds at Uni could do a lot with that. I think a Gringott's coaster would be a blast. But maybe if they didn't want to go the coaster route something along the lines of the Spiderman ride with a Gringotts theme could be an option. Gringotts just offers so many possibilities, I'd love to see them do something with it.

Sorry for spamming but that's exactly what my ride idea is about I posted it here http://www.orlandounited.com/forums/showthread.php?5564-My-Idea-for-the-WWOHP-Expansion