Mad Dog
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I'm sure they wished a cash strapped owner never did that. Perfect expansion pad.Before they built those apartments I thought they were going to expand back there
I'm sure they wished a cash strapped owner never did that. Perfect expansion pad.Before they built those apartments I thought they were going to expand back there
lol noAre we getting to the point that this park needs a billion + remodel like DCA?
Are we getting to the point that this park needs a billion + remodel like DCA?
Ya, I expect Bourne to help this park a lot.As has been said many times, I think it just purely needs a better attraction balance. As a passholder, when I go to the park, I sometimes find that I can't really spend all day there because there are only 4 attractions where I'm not staring at a screen (Mummy, MIB, ET, RRR), and I can't really ride RRR more than once. I don't mind screen attractions, but having 7 of them in one park ( Minions, Shrek, Fallon, F&F, Gringotts, Simpsons, Transformers), some with similar ride systems, is just too much. I can only ride so many screen attractions before I am worn out. At this point I think any attraction using practical effects will help immensely, and I think the Bourne show will be a hit. But I think at least one screen attraction, preferably Minions or Shrek, needs to be replaced with a practical one asap.
I'd say yes, but not for exactly the same reasons.Are we getting to the point that this park needs a billion + remodel like DCA?
Im in the hopeful, but not expecting crowd. I can't help but recognize its a perfect addition for this park and its placement in the park, but I don't believe we've heard they made 2 versions of this ride, just that a version was fitted for the Shrek building. Idk though Universal is going to want something opening for 2022 to keep people interested in their parks the year before EU opens. We shall seeI think people hoping for SLOP are out of luck, personally. The sequel did not do well at all.
I think as long as the parks are doing well, Comcast will continue to invest. I don't see any reason why things won't be continually changing at USF. KidZone, FFL, Mummy, and MIB all get changed in the next decade, if I'm a betting man. And Simpsons probably will as well.One thing to remember. USF has already witnessed an almost complete overhaul since 2003. Not many theme parks get overhauled that much so quickly. I would think Kidzone, and maybe Fear Factor, are about it for a while. You can't change everything in a park every 10-15 years. That's not business economics viable.
As far as I'm concerned, 2003 was a pretty long time ago - it's closer to when the park opened than it is to today. By the time Epic Universe opens in 2023, MIB will be 23 years old, Shrek will be 20 years old, Mummy will be 19 years old, Simpsons will be 15 years old but with a ride system that's 31 years old, and Kidzone . . . will still be in desperate need of replacement for multiple reasons.One thing to remember. USF has already witnessed an almost complete overhaul since 2003. Not many theme parks get overhauled that much so quickly. I would think Kidzone, and maybe Fear Factor, are about it for a while. You can't change everything in a park every 10-15 years. That's not business economics viable.
I agree 100%. I just believe replacing that much stuff within the 2023-2030 time period sounds far more like a billion+ remodel thanI think as long as the parks are doing well, Comcast will continue to invest. I don't see any reason why things won't be continually changing at USF. KidZone, FFL, Mummy, and MIB all get changed in the next decade, if I'm a betting man. And Simpsons probably will as well.
USF is a good park that needs a few spots of love
I'm sure they wished a cash strapped owner never did that. Perfect expansion pad.
and....those are baby ages compared to WDW, especially MK, attractions.As far as I'm concerned, 2003 was a pretty long time ago - it's closer to when the park opened than it is to today. By the time Epic Universe opens in 2023, MIB will be 23 years old, Shrek will be 20 years old, Mummy will be 19 years old, Simpsons will be 15 years old but with a ride system that's 31 years old, and Kidzone . . . will still be in desperate need of replacement for multiple reasons.
I agree 100%. I just believe replacing that much stuff within the 2023-2030 time period sounds far more like a billion+ remodel than
And by the time they've completely replaced all of those, it'll be about time to seriously think about F&F and at the very least update Fallon. The man WILL age. HRRR will need a retrack or... something at some point. It needs it now if you ask me.As far as I'm concerned, 2003 was a pretty long time ago - it's closer to when the park opened than it is to today. By the time Epic Universe opens in 2023, MIB will be 23 years old, Shrek will be 20 years old, Mummy will be 19 years old, Simpsons will be 15 years old but with a ride system that's 31 years old, and Kidzone . . . will still be in desperate need of replacement for multiple reasons.
I agree 100%. I just believe replacing that much stuff within the 2023-2030 time period sounds far more like a billion+ remodel than
WDW relies more on nostalgia and has many original rides. Universal has pretty much nothing that is "theme park original" (non-reliant on IP) besides Poseidon's Fury and HRRR. Look at Universe of Energy and Great Movie Ride - parts stopped being produced and Disney decided to get rid of the rides. Or you could look at an older removed (and beloved Disney attraction) - Horizons. It was only open for just over 16 years old when it closed for good (and seasonal part of that time). Why did it close? The ride lost it's sponsor first of all. Disney then didn't want to pay for the maintanance on an attraction they felt was redundant with SSE also in the same park.and....those are baby ages compared to WDW, especially MK, attractions.
'the length of a ride's life means nothing'....yes....that's what I was inferring.WDW relies more on nostalgia and has many original rides. Universal has pretty much nothing that is "theme park original" (non-reliant on IP) besides Poseidon's Fury and HRRR. Look at Universe of Energy and Great Movie Ride - parts stopped being produced and Disney decided to get rid of the rides. Or you could look at an older removed (and beloved Disney attraction) - Horizons. It was only open for just over 16 years old when it closed for good (and seasonal part of that time). Why did it close? The ride lost it's sponsor first of all. Disney then didn't want to pay for the maintanance on an attraction they felt was redundant with SSE also in the same park.
The length of a ride's life means nothing, especially when you have a land-locked park like USF is.
Yes, but you are meaning something different by it. 20 years old at MK is nothing whereas 20 years old at USF means time to go (or at least think about it). It's just the way it is because USF has so little room for expansion.'the length of a ride's life means nothing'....yes....that's what I was inferring.
When WDW does expansions it's usually the same way Universal does, namely replace an existing attraction with a new one. So space is a secondary requirement. It's all on an individual ride basis....Some people here think a park should tear nearly all their rides down and replace them every decade. Heh, most of those rides the super fans hate are liked by the real people in the general public. Well, basic economics tells you that a business isn't going to tear everything down and replace them, and then do it again a few years down the road. Sure USF will make a 'few' changes in the next few years, with emphasis on 'few'....not everything.Yes, but you are meaning something different by it. 20 years old at MK is nothing whereas 20 years old at USF means time to go (or at least think about it). It's just the way it is because USF has so little room for expansion.
I mean, yes and no.When WDW does expansions it's usually the same way Universal does, namely replace an existing attraction with a new one. So space is a secondary requirement. It's all on an individual ride basis....Some people here think a park should tear nearly all their rides down and replace them every decade. Heh, most of those rides the super fans hate are liked by the real people in the general public. Well, basic economics tells you that a business isn't going to tear everything down and replace them, and then do it again a few years down the road. Sure USF will make a 'few' changes in the next few years, with emphasis on 'few'....not everything.