Villain-Con Minion Blast (General Discussion) | Page 59 | Inside Universal Forums
Inside Universal Forums
Inside Universal Forums
  • Home
  • Forums
    New posts Search forums Account Upgrades
  • News
    Universal Studios Hollywood Universal Orlando Universal Studios Japan Universal Studios Singapore Universal Studios Beijing
  • Merchandise
Log in Register
What's new Search

Search

By:
  • New posts
  • Search forums
  • Account Upgrades
Menu
Log in

Register

Install the app
  • Signing up for a Premium Membership is a donation to help Inside Universal maintain costs and offers an ad-free experience on the forum. Learn more about it here.
  • Forums
  • Universal Parks & Resorts
  • Universal Orlando Resort
  • Universal Studios Florida
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.

Villain-Con Minion Blast (General Discussion)

  • Thread starter Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Start date Jan 9, 2022
  • Tags Tags
    despicable me minions villain-con
Prev
  • 1
  • …

    Go to page

  • 57
  • 58
  • 59
  • 60
  • 61
  • …

    Go to page

  • 107
Next
First Prev 59 of 107

Go to page

Next Last
Mad Dog

Mad Dog

Veteran Member
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
23,863
Location
Pittsburgh area
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,161
Casper Gutman said:
I think it is a very, very profound error to assume the folks making the decisions at major corporations are doing so in a particularly intelligent or informed way. Yes, they have access to a great deal more information then you or me, but they are also human and just as subject to the same arrogance, groupthink, and lack of self-reflection that afflict us all - moreso, often. As far as echo chambers go, a message board ain't got noting on a corporate board room packed full of millionaires. Reading any business history should quickly disabuse you of the unquestionable wisdom of corporate decision-makers. Indeed, all we need to do is look around - the entire entertainment industry is reeling right now because they made a series of ignorant, hasty, lemming-like, wildly overconfident decisions regarding streaming and traditional theaters. Or we can look at individual companies like Warner Bros. or certain social media firms for demonstrations of just how badly rich, powerful corporate decision makers can misjudge their own industry, audience, and product.

Basically, always remember - New Coke happened.
Click to expand...
Soooo true. Especially in the entertainment industry. Many long time home entertainment executives tried to warn the CEO's and Boards that streaming wasn't going to be the golden boy the techno crowd convinced them it would be. Now, lots of red ink that didn't have to happen.
 
C

Casper Gutman

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Apr 30, 2017
Messages
1,012
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,162
Nico said:
I get that. But personally, I’m generally happy this place that I love is getting love. I dislike Supercharged. That was a mistake. Thierry publicly agrees. I would rather people make mistakes spending money, then make the mistake of not investing.
Click to expand...
I generally agree… but I LIKE Supercharged! I’m the one guy!
 
Nico

Nico

Jurassic Ranger
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
2,017
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,163
Casper Gutman said:
I generally agree… but I LIKE Supercharged! I’m the one guy!
Click to expand...
You are fascinating. :lmao:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: TheCodeMan95 and USO92
TheUniC6

TheUniC6

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Oct 10, 2021
Messages
2,367
Location
RVA
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,164
Nico said:
You are fascinating. :lmao:
Click to expand...
Maybe it's a guilty pleasure type of thing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nico
Brian G.

Brian G.

Editor-in-Chief
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 21, 2008
Messages
27,380
Location
Orlando, FL
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,165
Casper Gutman said:
I think it is a very, very profound error to assume the folks making the decisions at major corporations are doing so in a particularly intelligent or informed way. Yes, they have access to a great deal more information then you or me, but they are also human and just as subject to the same arrogance, groupthink, and lack of self-reflection that afflict us all - moreso, often. As far as echo chambers go, a message board ain't got noting on a corporate board room packed full of millionaires. Reading any business history should quickly disabuse you of the unquestionable wisdom of corporate decision-makers. Indeed, all we need to do is look around - the entire entertainment industry is reeling right now because they made a series of ignorant, hasty, lemming-like, wildly overconfident decisions regarding streaming and traditional theaters. Or we can look at individual companies like Warner Bros. or certain social media firms for demonstrations of just how badly rich, powerful corporate decision makers can misjudge their own industry, audience, and product.

Basically, always remember - New Coke happened.
Click to expand...
While I agree that corporations can make mistakes and are far from perfect, that still doesn't change the fact the forums and the GP doesn't have the first-hand information they do - which means they have a leg up in that regard.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GA-MBIT, CyborgDinosaur, UniversalRBLX and 4 others
GAcoaster

GAcoaster

Dragon Trainer
Platinum Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2012
Messages
7,342
Location
Orlando
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,166
Alicia said:
Going by the trademark, for all we know, Freeze Ray Pops could just be a product offering within the sweet shop and not its own stand or kiosk. The popcorn stand is its own stand though, according to permits.
Click to expand...
Yeah-- I wasn't getting a real clear picture of whether the Café, Bakery, Popsicle stand or counter are separate things or just areas within the Minion Café, but the popcorn stand was definitely a freestanding/unique structure although the idea I got was it was the corner where the drink stand was.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheCodeMan95, soilsigh and Nico
C

Casper Gutman

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Apr 30, 2017
Messages
1,012
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,167
Brian G. said:
While I agree that corporations can make mistakes and are far from perfect, that still doesn't change the fact the forums and the GP doesn't have the first-hand information they do - which means they have a leg up in that regard.
Click to expand...
Yes, the executive decision-makers have a far wider and deeper pool of data. What they often lack is a specific knowledge of the history and cultural importance of their product, replacing that (particularly since the 80s) with a generalized, non-industry specific “business” background and an intense - often too intense -focus on Wall Street issues, frequently coupled with a dismissiveness for the specifics of their industry. You no longer have figures like Disney or Meyer or Laemmle or even Wasserman, people who built their businesses and are thus possessed of very specific knowledge even they wouldn’t pretend could be adapted to every other industry. This largely explains the industry-wide stumble over streaming, when a myopic obsession with an echo-chamber-driven Wall Street fad and an ignorance of the history of their own business field nearly killed every Hollywood conglomerate. It’s also, arguably, why Feige’s initial role as “low-level exec forced to actually read thousands of comic books so higher-ups didn’t have to” equipped him to be the best producer since Thalberg and Selznick.

So yeah, decision-making execs are smart folks with lots of data but biases and blind spots that mean sometimes the well-versed message board yahoo who knows nothing about Wall Street trends but a lot about the struggles of studios and theaters due to cultural changes after ‘48 may actually have the better idea of what’s going on.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mad Dog
Clive

Clive

Dragon Trainer
Staff Member
Joined
May 26, 2010
Messages
7,006
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,168
Casper Gutman said:
Yes, the executive decision-makers have a far wider and deeper pool of data. What they often lack is a specific knowledge of the history and cultural importance of their product, replacing that (particularly since the 80s) with a generalized, non-industry specific “business” background and an intense - often too intense -focus on Wall Street issues, frequently coupled with a dismissiveness for the specifics of their industry. You no longer have figures like Disney or Meyer or Laemmle or even Wasserman, people who built their businesses and are thus possessed of very specific knowledge even they wouldn’t pretend could be adapted to every other industry. This largely explains the industry-wide stumble over streaming, when a myopic obsession with an echo-chamber-driven Wall Street fad and an ignorance of the history of their own business field nearly killed every Hollywood conglomerate. It’s also, arguably, why Feige’s initial role as “low-level exec forced to actually read thousands of comic books so higher-ups didn’t have to” equipped him to be the best producer since Thalberg and Selznick.

So yeah, decision-making execs are smart folks with lots of data but biases and blind spots that mean sometimes the well-versed message board yahoo who knows nothing about Wall Street trends but a lot about the struggles of studios and theaters due to cultural changes after ‘48 may actually have the better idea of what’s going on.
Click to expand...

I think two things can be true, but it is also worth pointing out that many of Universal Orlando's execs literally helped open the park back in 1990.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Legacy, DodgsonHere, UniversalRBLX and 5 others
C

Casper Gutman

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Apr 30, 2017
Messages
1,012
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,169
TheUniC6 said:
Maybe it's a guilty pleasure type of thing.
Click to expand...
VERY off-topic, but I’m just not sure what a satisfying Fast & Furious ride looks like. A coaster, the most obvious choice, is likely to be lightly themed and generic. Other then that … a screen-based flight simulator? Realistically, some version of Radiator Springs Racers seems like the best bet, but that’s gonna be VERY pricey. In reality, the combination of “fast” and “themed” is very difficult to do in the physical constraints of a theme park.

Clive said:
I think two things can be true, but it is also worth pointing out that many of Universal Orlando's execs literally helped open the park back in 1990.
Click to expand...
I’m curious - how many are actually left? And how much decision-making power do they actually have?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Coolbfitz
Brian G.

Brian G.

Editor-in-Chief
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 21, 2008
Messages
27,380
Location
Orlando, FL
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,170
Casper Gutman said:
Yes, the executive decision-makers have a far wider and deeper pool of data. What they often lack is a specific knowledge of the history and cultural importance of their product, replacing that (particularly since the 80s) with a generalized, non-industry specific “business” background and an intense - often too intense -focus on Wall Street issues, frequently coupled with a dismissiveness for the specifics of their industry. You no longer have figures like Disney or Meyer or Laemmle or even Wasserman, people who built their businesses and are thus possessed of very specific knowledge even they wouldn’t pretend could be adapted to every other industry. This largely explains the industry-wide stumble over streaming, when a myopic obsession with an echo-chamber-driven Wall Street fad and an ignorance of the history of their own business field nearly killed every Hollywood conglomerate. It’s also, arguably, why Feige’s initial role as “low-level exec forced to actually read thousands of comic books so higher-ups didn’t have to” equipped him to be the best producer since Thalberg and Selznick.

So yeah, decision-making execs are smart folks with lots of data but biases and blind spots that mean sometimes the well-versed message board yahoo who knows nothing about Wall Street trends but a lot about the struggles of studios and theaters due to cultural changes after ‘48 may actually have the better idea of what’s going on.
Click to expand...
The same can be said about the well-versed message board yahoo concerning biases and blind spots - and while that doesn't mean an opinion should easily be dismissed as just someone on the forum, I have a hard time agreeing with the yahoo having a better idea than the execs despite the pool of data at their disposal, while we're on the outside looking in.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Parkscope Joe and Nico
Nico

Nico

Jurassic Ranger
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
2,017
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,171
Casper Gutman said:
VERY off-topic, but I’m just not sure what a satisfying Fast & Furious ride looks like. A coaster, the most obvious choice, is likely to be lightly themed and generic. Other then that … a screen-based flight simulator? Realistically, some version of Radiator Springs Racers seems like the best bet, but that’s gonna be VERY pricey. In reality, the combination of “fast” and “themed” is very difficult to do in the physical constraints of a theme park.


I’m curious - how many are actually left? And how much decision-making power do they actually have?
Click to expand...
This is exactly how I feel about Villain-Con.

Edit: I think these days, it’s important to separate reality and fantasy. Me spending a billion based on my (correct) wishes is still fantasy. :lmao: Facts and figures, even tainted by corporate blind spots are still closer to reality.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Brian G.
Brian G.

Brian G.

Editor-in-Chief
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 21, 2008
Messages
27,380
Location
Orlando, FL
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,172
Nico said:
This is exactly how I feel about Villain-Con.
Click to expand...
Thank you! Haha We're excusing the physical constraints for one, but not the other - when VC has way more constraints.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nico
C

Casper Gutman

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Apr 30, 2017
Messages
1,012
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,173
Brian G. said:
Thank you! Haha We're excusing the physical constraints for one, but not the other - when VC has way more constraints.
Click to expand...
The physical constraints on Blast are largely self-imposed - the space absolutely could have housed an AA-driven dark ride, for which the Minions are ideally suited. The difficulty of building a slightly above-Fantasyland-level dark ride are in no way equivalent to the challenges of creating a realistic illusion of a lengthy, high-speed car chase.

As for the other matter, all the data in the world doesn’t matter if you interpret it poorly or ignore it. It just baffles my mind that our society has dismissed almost all expertise, from doctors to professors, but still somehow defers to corporate executives, even as disasters like Warner Bros, Twitter, the Silicon Valley Bank, and the streaming industry play out in front of us. American history is full to the rafters of ignorant, arrogant executives causing financial chaos and destroying companies, but the myth of their omniscience continues.

PS: We all thought Chapek did a brilliant job, right? I mean, think of all the info HE had at his disposal!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jake S
Freak

Freak

Time Traveler
Joined
Jan 10, 2013
Messages
8,493
Location
No man's land: SoCal
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,174
Love how this thread has gone from “When will this ride open?” to “Its time for corporate America to BURN!!!!!” in just one page.
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: Rhian, GA-MBIT, TheCodeMan95 and 3 others
Alicia

Alicia

Superstar
V.I.P. Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2014
Messages
13,974
Location
Orlando
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,175
Freak said:
Love how this thread has gone from “When will this ride open?” to “Its time for corporate America to BURN!!!!!” in just one page.
Click to expand...
Really thought there would be more discussion on this really cute and unique banana flavored popcorn stand being confirmed by permits

usj-gds-pop-a-nana-a.jpg
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: MrBlonde, Doug A., DodgsonHere and 10 others
Nico

Nico

Jurassic Ranger
Staff Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2013
Messages
2,017
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,176
Alicia said:
Really thought there would be more discussion on this really cute and unique banana flavored popcorn stand being confirmed by permits

View attachment 18762
Click to expand...
I just want statues all over this land. Minions Park is cute AF.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MrBlonde, Rhian, TheCodeMan95 and 1 other person
C

Casper Gutman

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Apr 30, 2017
Messages
1,012
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,177
Nico said:
I just want statues all over this land. Minions Park is cute AF.
Click to expand...
Agreed.

Maybe even some moving statues!

The Monsters replacement does look great. Excited for that.
 
F

fryoj

Webslinger
V.I.P. Member
Joined
May 19, 2013
Messages
3,855
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,178
Alicia said:
Really thought there would be more discussion on this really cute and unique banana flavored popcorn stand being confirmed by permits

View attachment 18762
Click to expand...
And I'll be back to have that discussion after I get done throwing up.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: TheCodeMan95
Freak

Freak

Time Traveler
Joined
Jan 10, 2013
Messages
8,493
Location
No man's land: SoCal
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,179
Alicia said:
Really thought there would be more discussion on this really cute and unique banana flavored popcorn stand being confirmed by permits

View attachment 18762
Click to expand...
Banana flavored popcorn!?!?

Right there officer. RIGHT THERE. That’s a horrendous food crime right in front of you!
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: graspthesun, PerceptiveCoot, TheCodeMan95 and 3 others
C

Casper Gutman

Jurassic Ranger
Joined
Apr 30, 2017
Messages
1,012
  • Apr 27, 2023
  • #1,180
Freak said:
Banana flavored popcorn!?!?

Right there officer. RIGHT THERE. That’s a horrendous food crime right in front of you!
Click to expand...
I’ve been wondering when the Orlando parks would get on the “oddly flavored popcorn” bandwagon that’s so popular at Tokyo Disney.

It doesn’t have to be good enough for a lot of guests to buy twice if it’s weird enough for every guest to buy once.
 
  • Like
Reactions: belloq87 and Alicia
Prev
  • 1
  • …

    Go to page

  • 57
  • 58
  • 59
  • 60
  • 61
  • …

    Go to page

  • 107
Next
First Prev 59 of 107

Go to page

Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.
Share:
Facebook X Bluesky LinkedIn Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link

Book with our Travel Partners

MEI Travel

Latest posts

  • M
    Universal Great Britain - Speculation & Rumors
    • Latest: masekwm
    • 6 minutes ago
    Other Universal Parks & Resorts
  • M
    Universal Great Britain - News & Info
    • Latest: masekwm
    • 48 minutes ago
    Other Universal Parks & Resorts
  • saint.piss
    Grand Avenue & Muppet Courtyard
    • Latest: saint.piss
    • 54 minutes ago
    Disney's Hollywood Studios
  • GAcoaster
    General I-Drive Discussion
    • Latest: GAcoaster
    • Today at 6:19 PM
    Other Orlando & Central Florida Tourist Spots
  • Captain Spaulding
    Celestial Park - General Discussion Thread
    • Latest: Captain Spaulding
    • Today at 5:54 PM
    Universal Epic Universe

Share this page

Facebook X Bluesky LinkedIn Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Share Link
  • Forums
  • Universal Parks & Resorts
  • Universal Orlando Resort
  • Universal Studios Florida
  • Style variation
    System Light Dark
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
  • RSS
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2025 XenForo Ltd.
  • This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Accept Learn more…
Back
Top