belloq87
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Everyone is acting as if Disney is choosing to not open this on time.
The heavy implication from insiders on Magic is that missing the original target is intentional.
Everyone is acting as if Disney is choosing to not open this on time.
I was just thinking of this. Disneyland is without a doubt the best theme park in the world as far as bang for your buck and a lot of the reason for this is because they have only have two parks to focus on and Disneyland park covers a ridiculous amount of space for one park in the middle of Anaheim. Only having two parks to focus on means you can have a much more laser focused vision on improving the quality of each park and with every addition, the attraction roster continues to get even more ridiculous at a faster pace since the additions are only going in one of two parks. UOR demonstrates this as well.
With WDW having to focus on four parks, theoretically it may seem great, but it only causes parks to stagnate and growth of individual parks comes slow, even when the resort sees a period of high growth (as it currently is).
Everyone is acting as if Disney is choosing to not open this on time. There’s a significant shortage of clean construction workers in Orlando. Look at it this way, if they would’ve chosen not to divert resources, given the issues that came up with Galaxy’s Edge it wouldn’t have opened this year at all. It’s the bigger and more anticipated of the two projects, so it makes sense that they would push that forward and divert resources to finish it. It sounds like Mickey’s is nearly 6/7 months out anyways, so it wasn’t going to open on time as is.
That’s simply not the case. The divergence of resources is only happening because there aren’t enough construction workers in Orlando who can pass a pee test. That’s what my people have told me and I’ve heard the same from others in the know.That will still probably be the case, but there are construction workers out there. Maybe Disney doesn't pay enough to get what they need.
That’s an exact quote from Jim Hill on a recent Disney Dish podcast. Personally I find it offensive. Real generality, negative stereotype, and even if there was some truth to it, I’m sure there’s a better way to say it.there aren’t enough construction workers in Orlando who can pass a pee test.
I personally don’t listen to him/ his podcast. I’m just communicating what I’ve been told by people who have some connection toThat’s an exact quote from Jim Hill on a recent Disney Dish podcast. Personally I find it offensive. Real generality, negative stereotype, and even if there was some truth to it, I’m sure there’s a better way to say it.
If Disney really needed extra help to complete a project, I’m sure they could find it. And if you have to offer more money to pursuade skilled workers to help them rather than work on other projects, I’m sure they could. It would just take the desire to get it done.
I don’t claim to know how Disney works, but I’m sure there were a lot more factors at play besides finding workers that can pass a drug test to finish their Mickey Mouse ride. That has to be an oversimplification.
Ok, so this is one thing. But to just throw the pee test thing out there really was an unnecessary anecdote and something that could be seen as stereotypical and offensive to many.I personally don’t listen to him/ his podcast. I’m just communicating what I’ve been told by people who have some connection to the project. I’ve been told that Disney is genuinely struggling finding people to work on these projects because they have so many going on at once (and continuing to add more) and the recruitment process is relatively rigorous.
This !....it's absurd to say that a fairly small construction project in terms of workers, like M&M, couldn't find a sufficient number of skilled workers in a market area the size of Orlando....Pure nonsense. It's not like they're building a 50 story office building.That’s an exact quote from Jim Hill on a recent Disney Dish podcast. Personally I find it offensive. Real generality, negative stereotype, and even if there was some truth to it, I’m sure there’s a better way to say it.
If Disney really needed extra help to complete a project, I’m sure they could find it. And if you have to offer more money to pursuade skilled workers to help them rather than work on other projects, I’m sure they could. It would just take the desire to get it done.
I don’t claim to know how Disney works, but I’m sure there were a lot more factors at play besides finding workers that can pass a drug test to finish their Mickey Mouse ride. That has to be an oversimplification.
Orlando is over saturated with construction projects at the moment. It isn't just Disney and Universal.This !....it's absurd to say that a fairly small construction project in terms of workers, like M&M, couldn't find a sufficient number of skilled workers in a market area the size of Orlando....Pure nonsense. It's not like they're building a 50 story office building.
Well they are also building 2 hotel towers, an expansive gondola system, 2 roller coasters, another trackless dark ride and the largest, most detailed land in theme park history. Combine that with Universal building 2 roller coasters and a new park. Then add in the other large construction projects in the Orlando metro area like the new hotel at DPAC, 2 high rise buildings in downtown Orlando, and the massive I-4 redo, the pool of construction resources are definitely stretched thin.This !....it's absurd to say that a fairly small construction project in terms of workers, like M&M, couldn't find a sufficient number of skilled workers in a market area the size of Orlando....Pure nonsense. It's not like they're building a 50 story office building.
Granted. But it's still a very small project in terms of actual workers, especially at this late stage of the attraction construction. Seems there's more involved than a few workers. More like, milk the openings thought processes.....And, on that other matter for the WV folk, after just spending a day in the Appalachian mountains with A's ex in laws, the 25% figure for that population base may be actually too low. But, since they cracked down on those wayward doctors prescribing opiads like candy, the problem seems to have bottomed out. Of course, there's still the meth and heroin. But those also seemed to have slowed a bit too.Well they are also building 2 hotel towers, an expansive gondola system, 2 roller coasters, another trackless dark ride and the largest, most detailed land in theme park history. Combine that with Universal building 2 roller coasters and a new park. Then add in the other large construction projects in the Orlando metro area like the new hotel at DPAC, 2 high rise buildings in downtown Orlando, and the massive I-4 redo, the pool of construction resources are definitely stretched thin.
I have no info on the Jim Hill comment, but I do know that it is a major issue getting folks to work the mines in West Virginia. The latest data says that 25% of West Virginians have issues with opioid addiction.
Well they are also building 2 hotel towers, an expansive gondola system, 2 roller coasters, another trackless dark ride and the largest, most detailed land in theme park history. Combine that with Universal building 2 roller coasters and a new park. Then add in the other large construction projects in the Orlando metro area like the new hotel at DPAC, 2 high rise buildings in downtown Orlando, and the massive I-4 redo, the pool of construction resources are definitely stretched thin.
I have no info on the Jim Hill comment, but I do know that it is a major issue getting folks to work the mines in West Virginia. The latest data says that 25% of West Virginians have issues with opioid addiction.
Disney drug tests anyone working in Ops/ any facet of the parks. I see how that can be seen as offensive and I apologize for my poor phrasing.Ok, so this is one thing. But to just throw the pee test thing out there really was an unnecessary anecdote and something that could be seen as stereotypical and offensive to many.
Disney literally drug tests none of their CMs. Neither does Universal with their TMs.Disney drug tests anyone working in Ops/ any facet of the parks. I see how that can be seen as offensive and I apologize for my poor phrasing.
Explain to me why I was drug tested then?Disney literally drug tests none of their CMs. Neither does Universal with their TMs.
Not sure. Third party I guess. I’ve never been drug tested at Disney, Universal or SeaWorld.Explain to me why I was drug tested then?
Because you’re not in a safety critical role.Not sure. Third party I guess. I’ve never been drug tested at Disney, Universal or SeaWorld.
I mean, that’s actually not necessarily true, since I would deal with heavy machinery that could seriously F people up if I’m not careful.Because you’re not in a safety critical role.
Disney and Universal can do that because they are self insured. Most construction companies are not, and all insurance companies require that employers do pre-employment drug screening.Disney literally drug tests none of their CMs. Neither does Universal with their TMs.
The work being done now is not enough to make up for years of dramatically rising ticket prices and lack of expansion.Considering all the work that’s being done in Orlando right now, I find it hard to complain.
That’s an exact quote from Jim Hill on a recent Disney Dish podcast. Personally I find it offensive. Real generality, negative stereotype, and even if there was some truth to it, I’m sure there’s a better way to say it.
If Disney really needed extra help to complete a project, I’m sure they could find it. And if you have to offer more money to pursuade skilled workers to help them rather than work on other projects, I’m sure they could. It would just take the desire to get it done.
I don’t claim to know how Disney works, but I’m sure there were a lot more factors at play besides finding workers that can pass a drug test to finish their Mickey Mouse ride. That has to be an oversimplification.