Which is always the problem, but this news seems to be big enough for them to acknowledge something. This isn’t rumors anymore, it’s actual permits. So we shall see.I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they announced Shrek 4D closing before this.
EDIT: (People may wait to visit until Nintendo opens, like the Potter effect.)
Pokemon and Zelda will likely be built in different parks. The concept has worked well for spreading out Potter and I'm sure they want to capture lightning in a bottle again. ET will likely remain forever (or until the unfortunate passing of the great Spielberg I'm afraid.)I’m guessing that ET will stay open through construction and year one of the new land... and then I could see Storepants being returned to Pokémon, ET torn down for a new Pokémon flat ride, and a Zelda attraction built towards the back. Possibly even taking a chunk of Garden of Allah out with it?
That would be acceptable to me. I’d say Mario, Legend of Zelda, and Pokémon are “top three” most recognizable brands for Nintendo... while everyone might want a big land for Pokémon and LoZ, I’d have a hard time seeing them flesh those out (without getting too same-y). Pokémon might hem a little too close to Suess Landing as a full-blown land, and I can’t imagine what tie-ins a Hyrule would have with theming and food options to keep it distinct from Potter (or LotR, if that’s on the table).
Personally, as much as a whole Nintendo park would be possible, I think Universal has much bigger fish to fry, and I don’t want to see them spread Nintendo over to IOA or the new third park. Keep it contained in the KidZone area, and keep MiB and the expansion area next door for something else, to keep diversity in the park (fingers crossed for classic Universal monsters!).
I’m guessing that ET will stay open through construction and year one of the new land... and then I could see Storepants being returned to Pokémon, ET torn down for a new Pokémon flat ride, and a Zelda attraction built towards the back. Possibly even taking a chunk of Garden of Allah out with it?
That would be acceptable to me. I’d say Mario, Legend of Zelda, and Pokémon are “top three” most recognizable brands for Nintendo... while everyone might want a big land for Pokémon and LoZ, I’d have a hard time seeing them flesh those out (without getting too same-y). Pokémon might hem a little too close to Suess Landing as a full-blown land, and I can’t imagine what tie-ins a Hyrule would have with theming and food options to keep it distinct from Potter (or LotR, if that’s on the table).
Personally, as much as a whole Nintendo park would be possible, I think Universal has much bigger fish to fry, and I don’t want to see them spread Nintendo over to IOA or the new third park. Keep it contained in the KidZone area, and keep MiB and the expansion area next door for something else, to keep diversity in the park (fingers crossed for classic Universal monsters!).
I don't really see the similarities between Potter and Hyrule in the slightest, and think they could definitely coexist in the same park. I also don't really see the similarities between Pokémon and Seuss
I can’t see a colorful Pokemon Land co-existing with Suess in IOA. Not do I see Hogsmede and Hyrule fitting in the same park with each-other (unless this is a retheme for Lost Continent with a “Water Temple” overlay for Poseidon).
3rd Park is a toss-up, but if they want to secure the rights for LotR (or do Berk), I’d imagine Zelda would be too close thematically. Perhaps they would go with Pokémon in that case? But IOA getting a Nintendo franchise seems like a huge long-shot.
Both franchises don’t seem like shoe-ins to me. They don’t have themes food (potions, sure... but other than “Rare Candies” I can’t think of any specific food from either universes). Build it at USF, give each one ride concept and a shop, and call it a day.
And chip just released a permit map...
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Hehe, seems to line up with what I posted above quite well actually.
EDIT: If you look at bottom left and the little connection between left section and right-top, you'll see warp pipes. One for main entrance and one from Mushroom Kingdom to Donkey Kong Country.
Usually drainage only needs 1 or 2 pics right? There might not be much more.Is there anything stopping him releasing every permit map he has seen?
I can’t see a colorful Pokemon Land co-existing with Suess in IOA. Not do I see Hogsmede and Hyrule fitting in the same park with each-other (unless this is a retheme for Lost Continent with a “Water Temple” overlay for Poseidon).
3rd Park is a toss-up, but if they want to secure the rights for LotR (or do Berk), I’d imagine Zelda would be too close thematically.
Both franchises don’t seem like shoe-ins to me. They don’t have themed food (potions, sure... but other than “Rare Candies” I can’t think of any specific food from either universes). They don’t have a “wand” mechanism that could be worked into the land, like Potter. I can’t see either offering a stage show or streetmosphere. Build it at USF replacing ET, give each one ride concept and a shop, and call it a day.
Hey Pokemon has the little Donut things....And Giant chocolate coins are a no brainerBut Toon Lagoon and Marvel are colorful themed lands that have coexisted with Seuss since Day 1?
I also just don't see the connection between Hogsmeade and Hyrule. The two just aren't similar. If they built Castle Town, maybe. But the geography of Hyrule is so varied, they can do whatever they want.
This would be a bit more of an issue, yea.
Oh man, I can't disagree more. While the two may not have much in the way of food, neither does Mario, and they would make up for that in Merch sales.
Pokémon could easily have streetmosphere Pokemone meet and greets like the Raptor Encounter. Zelda could feature some of the many musical acts in the games.
I don't think every land needs a "wand" type thing, and I'm not expecting SNW to have one. The space will be interactive, but it won't be behind the purchase of a wand-like mechanism.
Marvel and Suess are colorful but visually distinct. Toon Lagoon is also colorful, but it’s probably the weakest land out of the original park, with a jarring transition into the other areas. That’s just my take on it, of course.But Toon Lagoon and Marvel are colorful themed lands that have coexisted with Seuss since Day 1?
Not every IP requires a "wand" mechanic or unique food opportunities, in-world. Mario Kingdom doesn't have that. The closest you'll get are various mushroom cakes and a big plate of spaghetti which... yum. To be honest, Pokémon has more merchandising opportunities than any other Nintendo IP. And regarding food, they'd be wise to basically pull in some inspired Japanese dishes that aren't featured in any American theme park. Hyrule has Lon Lon Milk, Goron Rock Cakes, Zora Fish Patties, etc.I can’t see a colorful Pokemon Land co-existing with Suess in IOA. Not do I see Hogsmede and Hyrule fitting in the same park with each-other (unless this is a retheme for Lost Continent with a “Water Temple” overlay for Poseidon).
3rd Park is a toss-up, but if they want to secure the rights for LotR (or do Berk), I’d imagine Zelda would be too close thematically. Perhaps they would go with Pokémon in that case? But IOA getting a Nintendo franchise seems like a huge long-shot.
Both franchises don’t seem like shoe-ins to me. They don’t have themed food (potions, sure... but other than “Rare Candies” I can’t think of any specific food from either universes). They don’t have a “wand” mechanism that could be worked into the land, like Potter. I can’t see either offering a stage show or streetmosphere. Build it at USF replacing ET, give each one ride concept and a shop, and call it a day.
Hey Pokemon has the little Donut things....And Giant chocolate coins are a no brainer
Marvel and Suess are colorful but visually distinct. Toon Lagoon is also colorful, but it’s probably the weakest land out of the original park, with a jarring transition into the other areas. That’s just my take on it, of course.
but that wall coming down is a real big clue that something has changed.
I just don't see how Pokémon isn't visually distinct from Seuss