With JCs fascination with the deep ocean I can almost guarantee that the sequels will feature some water...
And they just may use the attraction to introduce new aspects of the Avatar universe that will appear in the films later. JMO
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And they just may use the attraction to introduce new aspects of the Avatar universe that will appear in the films later. JMO
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It has been confirmed that Avatar 2 will focus on the oceans. Therefore, a water ride could definitely work.
Could be interesting. A combination of a 3D screen/drop ride experience disguised by a hometree facade.
True, but DHS is still in need of a big new land, IMO. And it was the lowest attended park last year.
I'm not saying DAK didn't need something. It obviously did. What I'm saying is that if they wanted to base a land in a park after a big name franchise outside of their stable, it should have been Star Wars.
Or. Instead of Star Wars. We could finally get Lord of the Rings into a theme park.
But yeah, if they want high merch sales, Star Wars is the only thing I can think of that would even come close to Harry Potter.
But yeah, if they want high merch sales, Star Wars is the only thing I can think of that would even come close to Harry Potter.
That as well, which could have also fit into DAK.
But I think there are very big issues with the ownership of LOTR/Hobbit's rights, and it's a confusing situation, so I can understand not acquiring them. But they already have the Star Wars rights and a seemingly good working relationship with Lucas.
Star Wars could potentially pass Potter. If there was ever to be a true "Potter Swatter". Star Wars is the only viable option at this point.
I'm just saying people really like Avatar, but there isn't really much to merchandise from it. Disney fuels the collectible side of Star Wars merch by providing park-exclusive action figures and vehicles as well as the usual t-shirts, lightsabers, and blasters. HP has a bunch of stuff that is for sale in the books/movies, but has never existed in "our" world until now. So, the demand to own what Potter and his friends "own" is very high. But with Pandora, what is there to own? It's a natural environment. They could certain have some fun with interesting food and drink, but actual merch? Sure they will sell t-shirts and some collectible stuff, but my point was a counter-point to the argument that Disney coveted HP's merch sales and thought Avatar could match it.
And I would love to see a high-tech dark ride and a high-tech water ride be the main attractions.
Yup. Someone on another site just did a little experiment. He typed "Avatar", "Harry Potter", and "Disney/Pixar's Cars" into Walmart.com or Target.com.
Avatar had something like 12 merch results, most of which were the different versions of the DVD.
Potter had something like 250 results.
Cars had 700 some.
Avatar isn't a merch money make. However, as for Disney expecting it to, they ALWAYS over estimate on things and expect the sky. They expect TRON: Legacy to make somewhere between the Transformers sequels and Avatar at the box office.
With the current budget quoted as in the 500 mil range, you're only gonna get one of them. Radiator Springs Racers is Disney's newest high tech ride, and it costs over 400 million.
We'll get a E-ticket out of this for sure. But I don't think people should be expecting 2.
Radiator Springs Racers only cost $200 million. Let's say you had a $250 million dollar main attraction (on par with Potter's budget), that would leave $250 million left over. I don't see why a $100 million water ride + $150 million dollar themeing would be out of the realm of possibility.
No, it doesn't. Not even close. They may be telling people it only cost $200 mill, but it costs over double that. How do I know?
1) I have a friend who works on the project, and he told me.
2) Leemac, a person who works for the company and is a financial guy said this about John Lasseter and RSR today, "And John's influence in the parks is largely limited to CarsLand now - especially the $400m fiasco that is Radiator Springs Racers."
Also, a 100 million dollar water ride from Disney wouldn't be advanced at all as people are clamoring for. Mermaid cost 100 mill. Mermaid is far from revolutionary.
Then you still kind of proved my point. That is an inflated price tag brought upon by the failures of planning. You don't call something a "fiasco" if it was brought in on budget. They won't have a $400 million budget for one ride.
And? WDI DOESN'T know how to spend money wisely. It's been proven time and time again in the past decade.
We'll get 1 E-ticket if the budget is 500 million, and two smaller attractions if we're lucky, especially considering they want shops and restaurants in this thing.
They don't know how to spend money, that's exactly my point. I'm not saying that there will be two big attractions, I said that's what I would LIKE, I'm just saying that knowing WDI, they think that $500 million will go much further than it will (and it could, if they knew how actually stay on that budget) and thus plan "accordingly."
Ah, didn't get that from your previous posts.
And yea, I'd like to see 2 big attractions, but realistically I know that's not going to happen. I think it'll end up being very similar to Carlsand. Which isn't bad in any stretch.
Radiator Springs Racers cost $400 mil, huh? Ridiculous. It looks great and I'm super excited, but that's a third of the budget of the entire re-design of DCA.
Yup. I laughed at my friend when he told me that in January. I thought he was joking. When he told me he was dead serious, all I could do was shake my head. There's no fathomable reason for a ride to cost that much.
He's running Pixar's name into the ground with all of the Cars-related stuff. First, he said that he was sick of direct-to-dvd movie sequels at Disney, then he releases a ton of Cars direct-to-dvd spin-offs, as well as creating the "Cars Toons." He's enamored with the brand (and the money it makes) and completely disregards everything else. Cars 2 was complete indulgent crap. They took the heart and soul of the first movie (really the only thing it had going for it) by leaving Radiator Springs. And don't even get me started on Monsters University. "Let's make a sequel to Monsters Inc, what's the worst thing we could do for the development of the characters? Oh, I know! Drop Boo, and then make it a prequel with lots of college hijinks! Can't lose!"
Sorry, completely derailing the thread here. Proceed.
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