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Pandora: The World of Avatar Announcement, Construction, & Preview Discussion

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Avatar’s rapid rise, sudden downfall, and endless Billy Jack connections / The Dissolve

here is that article you referenced.
 
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For me whilst I am looking forward to seeing world of Avatar it doesnt have the same appeal that I was expecting. Whilst I did enjoy the movie and do own on Blu Ray I had no emotional connection with any of the characters. People often refer back to Harry Potter 'land' and I have seen countless videos of people crying (adults and children) when see Diagon Alley or Hogsmeade/Hogswarts. I know this is comparing apples with oranges etc but I have set my expectations low for Avatar except for the cheesecake!
 
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For me whilst I am looking forward to seeing world of Avatar it doesnt have the same appeal that I was expecting. Whilst I did enjoy the movie and do own on Blu Ray I had no emotional connection with any of the characters. People often refer back to Harry Potter 'land' and I have seen countless videos of people crying (adults and children) when see Diagon Alley or Hogsmeade/Hogswarts. I know this is comparing apples with oranges etc but I have set my expectations low for Avatar except for the cheesecake!
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i agree on the cheesecake
so my plan for next Saturday is ride both rides
get cheesecake
explore
in that order
 
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I think it's funny that the cheesecake is already popular even though Disney renamed it mousse because even during early previews people pointed out they liked it but it's not cheesecake.

Just put on the menu "the food item formerly known as cheesecake."
 
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epcyclopedia said:
I think it's funny that the cheesecake is already popular even though Disney renamed it mousse because even during early previews people pointed out they liked it but it's not cheesecake.
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i asked you earlier but you never responded or at least i didnt see it
what is the texture of the steam pods
 
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i asked you earlier but you never responded or at least i didnt see it
what is the texture of the steam pods
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Hard to describing be unless you're big into Asian food. It's bao. Like a real traditional steamed bun where they spend a lot of time making sure the dough is fluffy and not chewy. It's not a wanton wrapper or dumpling.

Maybe "non sticky marshmallow" is the best way I can think to describe it. It's fluffy but without the crumble we associate with cake.
 
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twebber55 said:
heres where i slightly disagree with your posts although you make great points
You do not need to have a great understanding of the movie to appreciate the awe inspiring look of the land
You dont need to know the characters
This land is about the environment not any particular person (similar to other parts of DAK)
DAK lands typically are about places Africa, Asia etc
Pandora is no different
I think its as simple as Disney saw this as a way to generate an interest in staying at DAK at night (not a 1/2 day park type of thing)
i think the chances of Avatar 2 being a hit are far greater than it failing, i mean the guy doesnt really miss on movies
To quote Patrick Henry "I know of no way of judging the future but by the pass"
I did read a review of the land where the person said they didnt see the movie and felt like they didnt need to after experiencing it
anyways who cares what i think ill be there on May 13th to check it out
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The fatal flaw here is -- as breath-taking realistic/scenic as they are, Asia and Africa have never made the crowds appear.

I just don't buy the "guests will show up at night to admire the beautiful views." Never happened in Hogsmeade. Never happened at DAK last year (and I'm the one guy who knighted up for nighttime safari). Ride the ride, go back to the hotel pool, no one sticks around for the ambiance.
 
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The fatal flaw here is -- as breath-taking realistic/scenic as they are, Asia and Africa have never made the crowds appear.

I just don't buy the "guests will show up at night to admire the beautiful views." Never happened in Hogsmeade. Never happened at DAK last year (and I'm the one guy who knighted up for nighttime safari). Ride the ride, go back to the hotel pool, no one sticks around for the ambiance.
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all great points and you may be right
i guess we will see in the next year

EDIT: now DAK is going into this doubling the amount of people IOA had when WWOHP first opened 10 million to 5 million. My guess is still a 15% bump for DAK
 
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SeventyOne said:
The fatal flaw here is -- as breath-taking realistic/scenic as they are, Asia and Africa have never made the crowds appear.

I just don't buy the "guests will show up at night to admire the beautiful views." Never happened in Hogsmeade. Never happened at DAK last year (and I'm the one guy who knighted up for nighttime safari). Ride the ride, go back to the hotel pool, no one sticks around for the ambiance.
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Come out at night again to see the plants.... or just ride the boat ride and go see fireworks in MK/Epcot.
 
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As avid Cheesecake fanatic, critic, and CEO of Cheesecakeaholics Anonymous, I'm very disappointed and disgusted by the lack of respect to the cheesecake community that Disney has shown. They'll be hearing from my top legal team soon.
 
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Come out at night again to see the plants.... or just ride the boat ride and go see fireworks in MK/Epcot.
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thats certainly one way to spin it
 
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I like Avatar. I own the Blu-Ray and think it's a pretty good movie overall. That said, it's undeniably far less popular than it once was (though, its popularity really had nowhere to go but down). So maybe that continues and its time being significant in our culture is over. Maybe.

I wouldn't take that bet, though (and neither did Disney). Betting against James Cameron has historically been foolish. Remember when everyone thought Titanic was a massive mistake and financial catastrophe before it was released? The man has some kind of innate ability to capture the attention of the largest and broadest of audiences. He's been working (for years now) with a bunch of smart writers on Avatar scripts (and perhaps Disney had access to them). It's a reasonable bet that the coming Avatar movies will be both popular and good.

Cameron also has a (smaller) track record for making great theme park additions. Terminator is definitely dated now, but it's still a pretty fun show.

The point is, Disney is betting on Cameron to continue to do what he's been doing for almost his entire career. It's a safe bet, and the fact that Avatar isn't as popular as it used to be doesn't really mean much.

Also, I can imagine that even if someone hasn't seen Avatar, or doesn't like it, that this land is still appealing. It just looks neat. Are you not going to enjoy a simulator where you ride a dragon over a gorgeously rendered fantasy landscape? I mean, that'd sound great even if I hated the movie!
 
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Really the banshees, aka dragons, are the main lure. Which goes back to how this should have just been beastly kingdom as originally planned.
 
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epcyclopedia said:
Really the banshees, aka dragons, are the main lure. Which goes back to how this should have just been beastly kingdom as originally planned.
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Give it up. We get it. Concepts that never happened is your axe to eternally grind. Keep pushing that ski resort too fam.
 
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Give it up. We get it. Concepts that never happened is your axe to eternally grind. Keep pushing that ski resort too fam.
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I've never once advocated for the ski resort, but ok...
 
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I've never once advocated for the ski resort, but ok...
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It was a joke for your love of things that never happened and your negativity to anything modern day Disney does. Except for the "cheesecake".
 
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It was a joke for your love of things that never happened and your negativity to anything modern day Disney does. Except for the "cheesecake".
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Watch your tone.
 
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Watch your tone.
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Passive aggressive is my new identity. But, I'll take a step down here.
 
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i dont agree with @epcyclopedia a lot but i enjoy his perspective on projects
i think he s pretty harsh at times towards VB too
plus he s one of the few people who has at least been in part of the new land
also, Blog mickey has a cool pic of the entire Pandora team photo in front of the floating mtns
 
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So.. anywho..

I'll be spending part of this rainy day in Pandora. I'm allowed to take photos, and express my opinion about things there.

Should I post here or will the site spontaneously combust from my evil doing of evilness?
 
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