Building off of that and not directed at you:Also, to add one more thing: These crowds aren't normal. They're far below normal, which makes it all the more head-scratching. A new blockbuster land opens and less people show up than to when Pixar Pier opened? This is normally the time of year when tourists carry the load at DL... but I think marketing scared them all away and now they're left with a relatively empty park and a bunch of APs that are blocked out.
I agree with not letting people have lightsabers out. No one wants to get whacked in the shins by someone's precious little Jedi. There's also the "in character" reason of how many times in the Star Wars Movies did people have a lightsaber out and it not be for a fight? It would make no sense for people to be waving them around. The droids are obviously a bad idea to let people have out. They'd end up kicked bother accidentally and intentionally and it would turn violent. Robes though, I'm not sure why they wouldn't let people wear them. I can come up with a few fringe reasons, but not enough to outweigh the "they'd sell more" reason to let people wear them. Maybe they didn't want 1000 hardcore fans just living in the land dressed as jedis all the time. Who knows.Sorry for misunderstanding. The ride thing is a pretty easy conclusion to come to when you think of how monolithic Disneyland is from a rides perspective and how... small USH is on the same topic.
But again, this shouldn't be about Uni vs. Dis. I like it when we talk beyond surface level (which, essentially a lot of people seem to be insinuating since crowds aren't stretched to Mickey & Friends that this thing is a failure). I like talking about substance over surface. It's fine to argue to me that the substance isn't there or what-not, but the people experiencing the land right now are having A+++ experiences. I think Disney would much rather have that than have to compensate thousands of guests for a poor experience. As someone else said earlier in the thread, this mostly highlights how locals heavy Disneyland is and they've blocked out almost every level of pass (and CMs had been blocked out until they weren't).
I think the major blunders Disneyland made here come down to a few things:
Yes, DL is a locals heavy park, but i've been over the summer in both 2016 and 2017 and both times, APs were blocked out and it was EXTREMELY busy. These types of crowds just aren't normal and won't continue at Disneyland.
- Opening DL and WDW separately. Causes confusion among the masses.
- Opening either SWGE without RotR. Makes the land feel incomplete - because it is.
- They scared people away. They hyped it up to being so damn crowded, that it seems a lot of people just got scared off.
I sort of get not having the droid out, but just like I scratch my head at them not letting people dress up in a Jedi Robe that they just bought from a store in SWGE, I don't get why Sabers can't be out. Makes no sense. Just walk through Hogsmeade or Diagon alley. That's part of what creates the immersion - the guests wandering around in character themselves.
To me I feel like this is a policy that Disney is going to have to seriously rethink.
I don’t buy that people just decided to stop coming to DLR right when SWGE opened as being a coincidence and I certainly don’t buy that more people cared about Pixar Pier than a Star Wars Land.Sorry, I still don’t buy the “People were afraid of the crowds and didn’t come!” excuse. If that were the case people would stop coming Christmas week and Spring Break
The theme park going public has *never* shied away from high crowds, especially for a cool new thing opening. It’s unfathomableI don’t buy that people just decided to stop coming to DLR right when SWGE opened as being a coincidence and I certainly don’t buy that more people cared about Pixar Pier than a Star Wars Land.
I’d agree with this line of thinking if I thought vacationers didn’t think the Falcon was the headliner. Regular Joes aren’t gonna know that Rise is what it isWhen Cars Land first opened it drew in major crowds. The main difference between the openings of Cars Land and Galaxy's Edge is that Cars actually opened up with its headliner.
I mean, maybe it won’t. But I’d be very, VERY, surprised if it wasn’t one of, if not the best ride at Disneyland when it opens. Smugglers Run is a fun interactive ride, but Rise is supposed to be extremely grand and far superior to MFSR.I meant everyone is saying the land will be better when RotR opens. But what if it doesn’t make it better?