I'm not trying to refute anything as I agree with your overall point about numbers, but you say *only* 3 or 4 rides... the park only has 5.
That kinda was my point. 5 rides couldn't handle 30k people a day.
I'm not trying to refute anything as I agree with your overall point about numbers, but you say *only* 3 or 4 rides... the park only has 5.
I remember seeing something about the average family of 4 does about 7 rides/attractions in magic kingdom in a day. I think guests get way less done that a lot of people assume.That kinda was my point. 5 rides couldn't handle 30k people a day.
I prefaced it saying these numbers were theoretical and rarely happens - no need to get triggeredSo in an average 12 hour park day the rare 100% efficiency capacity for rides would be 120,000. That means your average guest is only going to get to ride 4 rides if they are getting 30,000 guests daily. At 80% capacity you are looking at only riding three rides.
Does that sound like what really happens in that park to you?
I know that's what Disney aims for and they claim is enough to make guests feel satisfied, but I'm not sure if it's what is actually achieved or not.I remember seeing something about the average family of 4 does about 7 rides/attractions in magic kingdom in a day. I think guests get way less done that a lot of people assume.
I prefaced it saying these numbers were theoretical and rarely happens - no need to get triggered
DHS also has narrower pathways and is smaller in overall size than IoA or USF, so it may "feel" busier, but that doesn't mean it is, it's just more crowded.DHS feels considerably busier than IOA or USF on any given weekend so I'll believe 30k a day
TSMM is only like 1500 with the third track. It was barely moving 1000 guest an hour with the original two tracks.
And it's not 7 "rides" - it's things. That includes shows, meals, etc..
The number is 8, and it was brought up to 9 with the addition of FP. (MK and Epcot, other parks aren't the same because they physically cant be.)
How that plays out theoretically for Epcot:
1. Soarin
2. Spaceship Earth
3. Seas with Nemo
4. Electric Umbrella
5. Test Track
6. Shopping in World Showcase
7. Frozen Ever After
8. Le Cellier
9. Illuminations
If you spent the full day at Epcot you'd feel you got your money's worth with that itinerary.
DHS has been pulling less than 15k a day for a few months now.
Even when the park was fully open it would barely hit 20-23k most days. SWW, Cheerleading events and Osborne are what really packed that park.
The possible issue with Shanghai's attendance is threefold
*They charge considerably less for tickets, so their attendance ticket intake money per guest doesn't equal that of the USA parks
* Guest spending on food purchases has been disappointing from accounts.
* Guest purchases on merchandise have been disappointing from accounts
The major factor in business is revenue, more so than actual attendance numbers. Revenue & Spending per Guest is looking like it could be a long term issue.
You pay $280 for a 7 day ticket? Disney must love to punish non Florida, non foreign guests.Shanghai's ticket prices are relatively high honestly. 1 day tickets are priced higher than Tokyo, Hong Kong or Paris.
Sure 75 USD doesn't compare to the 1 day peak MK 119$, but you have to look at the whole picture. How many of those guests actually are forking out that kind of daily rate? I'd estimate an insignificant number. Most guests are on discounted multi-day tickets or AP's.
Shanghai on the other hand offers a whopping 5% discount for a two day multi ticket. There was no AP.
I paid 75 USD for each day in SHDL, as a Canadian with WDW's current at par offer I am paying 40USD a day on a 7-day ticket.
If WDW as a whole is making significantly more than 75USD per park day per guest, in ticket admissions, I'd be shocked.
DHS top 5% of revenue would surely include the 4 days ticket holders already, who honestly is visiting DHS on anything less than a 4 day ticket? The median is probably on a 7-day 58.85 rate and the bottom half is made up of AP's or those of us who can seemingly do even better rates. All of which is to say DHS likely is making 2/3rds at best of Shanghai's ticket median price.
Disney greatly increased the pricing for WDW multi day tickets this past year, so they're way more than that.You pay $280 for a 7 day ticket? Disney must love to punish non Florida, non foreign guests.
Disney greatly increased the pricing for WDW multi day tickets this past year, so they're way more than that.
Pricing for WDW multi day tickets
4 Day ticket.............$87.50 per day...Total $350 plus tax
5 day ticket..............$74 per day......Total $375 plus tax
6 day ticket...............$65 per day....Total 390 plus tax
7 day ticket...............$58 per day.....Total $406 plus tax
Note: These are non park hopper tickets. Park hoppers are somewhat higher.