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The Old KidZone Thread

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Hansgraubardp said:
No Smurfs... move on from that as well
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Well how the smurf are we supposed to smurfing know what the smurf is going in here? :lol:
 
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Kung fu Panda!
The croods
Mega Mind
Monsters vs.aliens
 
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Pay attention to future Illumination films, I'm told they're being looked at. Don't know anymore then that though.
 
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Future illumination films include:(in development)
How the Grinch stole Christmas (ANIMATED)
The Screaming Staircase (LIVE ACTION)
Cat in the Hat (CGI)
Emily The Strange (live action, animated)
Ugly-dolls (animated)
Pluto ( live action, cgi)
Curious George (live action,computer animated)
Flanimals (Simpsons writer will write script)

Interesting..........
 
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OrlandoParks said:
Future illumination films include:(in development)
How the Grinch stole Christmas (ANIMATED)
The Screaming Staircase (LIVE ACTION)
Cat in the Hat (CGI)
Emily The Strange (live action, animated)
Ugly-dolls (animated)
Pluto ( live action, cgi)
Curious George (live action,computer animated)
Flanimals (Simpsons writer will write script)

Interesting..........
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Only possibility is
1. Flanimals
2. They decide to go all out with a minion or shrek IP.

dont see anything else that would be good.
 
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I've said this somewhere in this thread but I'll say it again. The best thing Universal can do, IMO, is to take an IP that isn't aimed directly at kids to anchor KidZone with. Aside from Spongebob, what could they realistically use that would be timeless enough to make their investment worthwhile? Kid's properties aren't meant to last, they're meant to sell tickets in a movie theatre, sell some merchandise, and then be forgotten so the studio can move along and do the same thing with another movie a few months down the road. Occasionally you get smash hits like Shrek and Despicable Me but those come few and far between, and since both of those are essentially out of the question, there must not be much Universal is seriously considering right now for KidZone.

But let's take a look at more adult-oriented properties. PG-13 movies sell more tickets, benefit from more promotion, and therefore have better opportunities to become franchises worthy of transferring over to a theme park. It would be crazy to make children's rides out of properties not aimed at children though, right? Well, let's look at it this way. The park's most popular rides among kids (aside from Despicable Me) is generally Transformers, Men in Black, and the Simpsons. All of which stem from PG-13 franchises. Even look at Disney's most popular rides. Pirates of the Caribbean and the Haunted Mansion, two of the most successful "family" rides ever created, gave birth to movies aimed at a more mature crowd than Dora the Explorer and Spongebob. Finally, take a look at what the hottest IP right now, Marvel, and check out who its target demographic is for merchandise...kid boys. Despite The Avengers being PG-13, what little superhero fans actually didn't go see the movie? My son has been watching superhero movies since he was in 2nd grade. The point is, a property does not have to be a cartoon to be kid-friendly.

So what does this mean for KidZone? Right now you've got ET, Barney, and Curious George. They're kid-centric properties all right, but they are a lot less relevant than the franchises you see now that are aimed at an older crowd. So why would Universal waste their time trying to find the next Despicable Me in a hugely and purposefully over-saturated market? Replicating that success is hard, and predicting it in a time-effective manner to build a theme park attraction is even harder. It seems to me that the smarter move would be to abolish the idea of a KIDzone altogether.

For one thing, KIDzone is discriminating. Universal gets flack for having rides aimed mainly towards an older crowd, but having rides aimed mainly at a younger crowd is just as bad. KIDzone is a turn-off. That land needs to be filled with rides like ET, stuff that everyone can enjoy...not just people over 40" and not just kids under 4 years old. In any case, it's already been established that more little stuff like Kang & Kodos will be placed around the park in the future, so let that keep going. There's no rule saying a ride has to be for toddlers OR the rest of the family.

So after that whole idea and theme has been dropped, I'd say Universal should not so much worry about the IP, but more the actual attraction itself. Pirates and haunted houses aren't "kid-friendly" by definition, yet they've yielded some pretty successful family attractions. Universal can apply those same principles of creating an inviting attraction with whatever they've got to work with. And it doesn't have to be a hot property...Men in Black is past its prime but shooting aliens is a pretty timeless/enjoyable theme. As long as the attraction lacks intensity and is generally mild in nature it can be a successful family attraction regardless of what it's based on. I mean, obviously zombies and serial killers don't work, but the Hollywood franchise machine has given theme parks a lot of material to work with. I feel like Universal is wasting their time trying to nab the next hot kid's franchise because kid franchises aren't meant to stick around very long, they're barely meant to outlast a normal kid's attention span. What they should do, in my very humble opinion, is start looking at the right attraction, and then worry about the right theme to go with it, G-rated cartoon or not.
 
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I like that idea of a Shrek land that someone brought up. But only if they also remove the terrible Shrek 4-D and replace it with something else.
 
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It's a movie park, why not make it a (kids) movie studio area? Props, rigs, lamps, camera's but all made like kid toys. They can put in different sets reflecting studio properties like Despicable me, Shrek and Hasbro Transformers toys. It could be easily updated by changing scene's but the whole area could be timeless.
 
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Just to give a glimpse of the "Flanimals"
flan31st.jpg
 
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Hansgraubardp said:
Only possibility is
1. Flanimals
2. They decide to go all out with a minion or shrek IP.

dont see anything else that would be good.
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It also could mean they're trying to make Curious George relevant again... if they make a movie about him, they'll just upgrade the area
 
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Did i mention that they are also making a movie based on the "minions"
 
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OrlandoParks said:
Did i mention that they are also making a movie based on the "minions"
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Unlikely they'll have the same IP in two different areas of the same park.
 
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Time Capsule :look:
 
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Jwhee said:
Time Capsule :look:
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I hate to be that guy...but I think the times of heavy Nick influence at Uni are over...would love to see it though
 
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Sadly... We won't see the slime geyser, too much of a maintenance issue.
 
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It seems as though no one cares to respond to tylerdurden or maybe no one read it but he brings up a lot of valid points. Magic kingdom doesnt have designated kid areas like kidzone and then isolate kids everywhere else...magic kingdom lays the groundwork for exactly what tyler is saying. Uni would be smart to take a page out of walts playbook.
 
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I totally agree with what Tyler said. Uni wants family rides, which appeals to everyone, not just grown ups or small kids (in this case) but rides for everyone. You see everyone riding all the rides in fantasyland with or without children, because they appeal to all ages. Thats what this area needs in the park and not another kidszone, which can only be enjoyed by small kids (apart from ET of course). I think we need to maybe imagine kids zone as not a kids zone anymore, I hope when this new area comes about its a lot more than just for kids. As for IPs that can fufill this role, I'm stumped, but maybe we should be looking at more than just kids only films?
 
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If Comcast buys Time Warner....does that add new possibilities to KidsZone and the rest of the Universal parks?
 
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If Comcast buys Time Warner....does that add new possibilities to KidsZone and the rest of the Universal parks?
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Make sure not to confuse Time Warner with Time Warner Cable. The former owns some highly demanded IPs, the latter is a cable company.
 
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mainejeff said:
If Comcast buys Time Warner....does that add new possibilities to KidsZone and the rest of the Universal parks?
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Nope, but the internet may be faster
 
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