Theme Parks & Shopping Districts Reopening General Thread

[Clive]

Either way, the headline is that Hong Kong Disneyland is closing again due to COVID-19, even if there are underlying reasons (including the park being empty).

Not great optics.

 

[Mad Dog]

Either way, the headline is that Hong Kong Disneyland is closing again due to COVID-19, even if there are underlying reasons (including the park being empty).

Not great optics.

I agree. The park did poorly when Hong Kong had a small degree of independence, before the Central Committee effectively took that away a few weeks ago. Now with major political fear in the community, and prospects for outside China tourism being bleak, even after covid abates, this is a park that has a very uncertain future............in other Disney news, on CNBC ,Goldman just gave a strong buy for Disney stock. That counts a lot more than that Twitter nonsense.

 

[Nick]

I’m not about this, no way:

 

[Jerroddragon]

I’m not about this, no way:

Lol

What the Fudge....come on Disney are you just trying to have people crap on you now. This seems so dumb

 

[Tbad556]

I’m not about this, no way:

Seems like it's been resolved, but come on...

 

[Andysol]

We as theme park enthusiast must raise our voice for the safety of the people who work so hard to make our days at the parks memorable.

I’m not about this, no way:

The people who work so hard to make our days at the parks memorable seem to be just fine going to the parks, themselves.

 

[Nick]

The people who work so hard to make our days at the parks memorable seem to be just fine going to the parks, themselves.

Speak for yourself.

I know so many people who either don’t feel safe but have no choice or have gotten COVID since going back.

 

[Mad Dog]

Close all the Orlando area Parks. Bulldoze the buildings, and start replanting those Orange Groves. They should be able to support a population of a few thousand in the Orlando area.

 

[Andysol]

Speak for yourself.

I know so many people who either don’t feel safe but have no choice or have gotten COVID since going back.

I don't have to. That pic speaks for the hundreds (thousands) at the parks... right now... on their day off.

Just pointing out that CMs and TMs can speak for themselves and they don't need guardians, who aren't their mom or dad, on the internet to speak on their behalf.

 

[Nick]

I don't have to. That pic speaks for the hundreds (thousands) at the parks... right now... on their day off.

Just pointing out that CMs and TMs can speak for themselves and they don't need guardians, who aren't their mom or dad, on the internet to speak on their behalf.

It’s actually fairly dead at the parks today. People only came out because they’ve been blacked out of SWGE since the beginning and this is the first chance for CMs to ride RotR. Outside of SWGE, both DHS and Epcot are dead.

 

[Mad Dog]

I don't have to. That pic speaks for the hundreds (thousands) at the parks... right now... on their day off.

Just pointing out that CMs and TMs can speak for themselves and they don't need guardians, who aren't their mom or dad, on the internet to speak on their behalf.

Yes. You'd think readers on a site that was dependent on the existence of Orlando Theme Parks, would be accentuating the positive, and it appears both Universal & Disney are doing about the best anyone could expect covid safety wise, and
helping them to maintain their existence as viable businesses, instead of tearing them down at every opportunity. :ugh:

 

[Speed]

Not sure if this is the right thread but Universal had some water effects on for the first time since reopening yesterday on both Spider-man and FJ

 

[JungleSkip]

Yes. You'd think readers on a site that was dependent on the existence of Orlando Theme Parks, would be accentuating the positive, and it appears both Universal & Disney are doing about the best anyone could expect covid safety wise, and
helping them to maintain their existence as viable businesses, instead of tearing them down at every opportunity. :ugh:

There's no positives. The parks shouldn't be open, they know they shouldn't be open, but they need to be open to save at least a percentage of the jobs for people that work there due to the lack of the federal government doing anything. It's a bad situation from top to bottom, and pretending otherwise is folly.

 

[Tbad556]

Yes. You'd think readers on a site that was dependent on the existence of Orlando Theme Parks, would be accentuating the positive, and it appears both Universal & Disney are doing about the best anyone could expect covid safety wise, and
helping them to maintain their existence as viable businesses, instead of tearing them down at every opportunity. :ugh:

I mean, I love the parks, have worked for both of the big two & have been an AP holder to each for over ten years while not working there, but I'm not their PR team nor do I think they are infallible. If they make a mistake, they should absolutely be called out for it, especially when it involves something as dangerous as a pandemic.

 

[Brian G.]

Yes. You'd think readers on a site that was dependent on the existence of Orlando Theme Parks, would be accentuating the positive, and it appears both Universal & Disney are doing about the best anyone could expect covid safety wise, and
helping them to maintain their existence as viable businesses, instead of tearing them down at every opportunity. :ugh:

I'm on "Team Open" - but I also wish there wasn't a need for it to be open right now, especially with how things are currently trending here. Universal and Disney both have great safety measures in place, especially compared to other places of business, but that doesn't change the fact that not all the employees feel safe.

 

[Mad Dog]

I mean, I love the parks, have worked for both of the big two & have been an AP holder to each for nearly ten years while not working there, but I'm not their PR team nor do I think they are infallible. If they make a mistake, they should absolutely be called out for it, especially when it involves something as dangerous as a pandemic.

I understand. Fortunately it seems when either Universal or Disney has a misstep pointed out to them, they've corrected them immediately. To be completely honest, I originally never thought they'd go this far in establishing safety procedures, and enforcing them, especially in a state that has a reputation for very lax business regulations. The local economy needs them badly, and they're doing a decent job while obviously losing tons of money with the reopening. It probably would have been a money saving fact for them to stay closed and lay 'everyone' off for a good while. But, as I've said before, who could survive on Florida's paltry unemployment benefits of $100 to $250 weekly for 12 weeks, without federal stimulus help. The local economy
clock is ticking. Orlando needs for them to survive.

 

[Andysol]

It’s actually fairly dead at the parks today. People only came out because they’ve been blacked out of SWGE since the beginning and this is the first chance for CMs to ride RotR. Outside of SWGE, both DHS and Epcot are dead.

Exactly my point. They, themselves are willing to risk exposure to ride SWGE. But if the GP do it, we clutch our pearls.

There's no positives. The parks shouldn't be open, they know they shouldn't be open, but they need to be open to save at least a percentage of the jobs for people that work there due to the lack of the federal government doing anything. It's a bad situation from top to bottom, and pretending otherwise is folly.

There just needs to be consistency. People can bemoan the parks, but while you can still get a massage or eat at PF Changs while not wearing a mask; it seems odd to lash out at WDW/UOR.
It feels a lot like people are just trying to take a swipe at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel like they're "speaking for justice and truth" when, in fact, they aren't. The parks have just as much of a right to be open as PF Changs.
And to be frank, I think Universal and Disney are taking it more seriously than your local Publix or Kroger is.

If you feel differently, don't go (which I know you aren't, which is the right move on your part and a broader "you"). If a CM/TM feels differently, express it and then don't work there. Or start a petition within your company. Or, like Disney, speak to your Union. A Union who agreed with the conditions, btw.
The truth of the matter is, many are happy to be back at work. So what percentage do we listen to? The ones that want to be working or the ones that fear for their safety? What if one is only 5%? Ignore the other 95?

And I'd hope that we can all agree that if they complain and went to DHS today, then they are enormous hypocrites.

 

[Tbad556]

I understand. Fortunately it seems when either Universal or Disney has a misstep pointed out to them, they've corrected them immediately.

Wouldn't this portion of your quote mean that the critiques should continue? It's not like major news organizations are coming to IU for their takes on whether they should roast the parks reopening or not If pointing out issues here means maybe they can fix them and be safer though, it seems like a win in my book. Our economy definitely needs them, but we also need them to be perfectly safe or they'll only end up closed again and in a bigger low point than they already are too.

 

[Mad Dog]

I'm on "Team Open" - but I also wish there wasn't a need for it to be open right now, especially with how things are currently trending here. Universal and Disney both have great safety measures in place, especially compared to other places of business, but that doesn't change the fact that not all the employees feel safe.

I agree on wishing there was no need to open Orlando right now, like in LA that has a diversified economy and generous unemployment benefits that doesn't need the parks to open right away. So it would be nice if there wasn't a need to be open....but unfortunately that's the harsh economic realities in an area that's a one horse economy. But most of the US work force is also back to work, essential and non essential, and many (or most) don't feel safe, especially in the health care field, but they still go to work. If someone doesn't feel safe, and I know this is harsh, they can look for work in a field (and there aren't many, good luck in finding that job) that are completely covid safe. These CM/TM aren't high paying jobs, so it's not like they're giving up great careers to move on to something else. This is all the tough realities of economic life during a pandemic. ....I just think more positivity, and less 'dwelling' on a few small negative one time situations, should be the objective. Make this opening successful. And as you said, their safety measures are great compared to other businesses that are open........and @Tbad556 ...Yes, fine to point it out.Constructive criticism, done in a positive way is a plus. Unfortunately some start harping & piggybacking on the original post and turn a minor critique into a malestrom of sorts....and then all that ridiculous Twitter snark that's a bit too much.

 

[Nick]

Exactly my point. They, themselves are willing to risk exposure to ride SWGE. But if the GP do it, we clutch our pearls.


There just needs to be consistency. People can bemoan the parks, but while you can still get a massage or eat at PF Changs while not wearing a mask; it seems odd to lash out at WDW/UOR.
It feels a lot like people are just trying to take a swipe at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel like they're "speaking for justice and truth" when, in fact, they aren't. The parks have just as much of a right to be open as PF Changs.
And to be frank, I think Universal and Disney are taking it more seriously than your local Publix or Kroger is.

If you feel differently, don't go (which I know you aren't, which is the right move on your part and a broader "you"). If a CM/TM feels differently, express it and then don't work there. Or start a petition within your company. Or, like Disney, speak to your Union. A Union who agreed with the conditions, btw.
The truth of the matter is, many are happy to be back at work. So what percentage do we listen to? The ones that want to be working or the ones that fear for their safety? What if one is only 5%? Ignore the other 95?

And I'd hope that we can all agree that if they complain and went to DHS today, then they are enormous hypocrites.

There aren’t many people even in SWGE. Even Oga’s is empty.