To me, it makes much more sense for Mushroom Kingdom to headline a third park as I said this morning. I just don't see that park as having the headliner IP they need otherwise.
To me, it makes much more sense for Mushroom Kingdom to headline a third park as I said this morning. I just don't see that park as having the headliner IP they need otherwise.
Ehhh... LotR tends to have an older fan base at this point whereas Nintendo has fans of all kinds. Sure LotR has younger fans, but it isn't going to be Potter for theme park popularity and I don't think it will be as popular as Mushroom Kingdom either. It really does all come down to rides I guess, but the question is, what rides do you build for a LotR area? Nothing sticks out as obvious besides maybe a water ride.If they had LOTR it’d be that. Otherwise yea
Ehhh... LotR tends to have an older fan base at this point whereas Nintendo has fans of all kinds. Sure LotR has younger fans, but it isn't going to be Potter for theme park popularity and I don't think it will be as popular as Mushroom Kingdom either. It really does all come down to rides I guess, but the question is, what rides do you build for a LotR area? Nothing sticks out as obvious besides maybe a water ride.
I said it earlier - I don't think LotR is going to be as popular as everyone expects it to be.
I mean it would be popular, but I still think Mario would be the bigger draw and if both prove to be very popular then you have yourself two huge headliners for a 3rd park (plus whatever else they choose to build around that stuff). I think even if they have LotR it's smart to built Mushroom Kingdom over there as it would make the park more stable from the jump, unlike DHS and DAK, which were built as half-day parks and still haven't recovered from the lack of attractions at opening.I think you’re crazy.
LOTR hasn’t stayed on top of the fantasy genre for 60+ years on older fans alone. IDK if it’d be Potter, but it’s be huge, especially if they did a good job of building impressive lands
I mean it would be popular, but I still think Mario would be the bigger draw and if both prove to be very popular then you have yourself two huge headliners for a 3rd park (plus whatever else they choose to build around that stuff). I think even if they have LotR it's smart to built Mushroom Kingdom over there as it would make the park more stable from the jump, unlike DHS and DAK, which were built as half-day parks and still haven't recovered from the lack of attractions at opening.
That's possible, but I think the case could end on summary judgment given that it seems pretty clear cut that either Universal can build or cannot based on the master declaration and whether it still applies. I'm not sure as a matter of law that this needs to go to trial.It could very well settle after that, giving he parties a better idea how much they can/should demand before it goes to trial. I mean, the huge google/uber trial settled several days into the trial the other week.
I guess I’m rooting for the lawsuit to not go well then.There is no doubt Universal has drawn up concept plans of it both ways. And for me, its just too hard to envision what else Universal has that will make its new park competitive with Magic Kingdom. And all indications are they're ready to get park #3 open ASAP. Pouring resources into IOA or USO will not make that happen.
Also, we don't even know of Universal has permission to use Pokemon at this point, but even if they do, I'd expect that in the new park too. All rumors point to making the new park targeted at a younger age, and putting both in there is the way to do it. Universal's existing parks already have that stigma that they're for a little older kids, and it'd be hard to convert that. Especially by removing Kidzone.
I said it before, when the walls came down, and was ridiculed, but I stand by it: there's a real good chance its going to the new park, with Kid Zone being kept as a backup with developed plans just in case things don't move along the right speed or how they want in the lawsuit.
So you want the lawsuit against them building a third park to succeed so that they build a Nintendo Land at USF slightly quicker than they would if they built it at a new park? :saywhat:I guess I’m rooting for the lawsuit to not go well then.
How fast do people here really think building the new park and it’s associated infrastructure to take? I’m thinking at the earliest 2023 and that’s if they started now.So you want the lawsuit against them building a third park to succeed so that they build a Nintendo Land at USF slightly quicker than they would if they built it at a new park? :saywhat:
If they started Today on Nintendo a USF, it wouldn't be complete until sometime in 2021 at the ealiest based on how long it took to build Diagon.
IOA took 6 years from the initial announcement to opening, with 2 years of construction. They've already basically announced the intentions, and its likely they could move faster then IOA, that was believed to be delayed a couple years. Its very possible it could be done for 2021 if they were to start now, but they likely won't start for another year. In some ways, a new park on empty land is easier, as they don't have to worry about any existing utilities or infrastructure and how to integrate with it, or the problems that arise from things not being quite as expected. With it being far from the existing park as well as homes and such, its also likely hours of construction are more flexible, and less concern with trying to hide stuff and keep the existing pathways opened.How fast do people here really think building the new park and it’s associated infrastructure to take? I’m thinking at the earliest 2023 and that’s if they started now.
I agree 2023-ish. Probably later.How fast do people here really think building the new park and it’s associated infrastructure to take? I’m thinking at the earliest 2023 and that’s if they started now.
If they don't do any more projects at the current parks then I could see land prep beginning late this year, major construction mid-late next year, with the first pieces opening in mid 2022. It would likely be into 2023 at least before they got everything open through.How fast do people here really think building the new park and it’s associated infrastructure to take? I’m thinking at the earliest 2023 and that’s if they started now.
Now you see the issue.I agree 2023-ish. Probably later.
I guess maybe I just am not dying to visit it as much as you, but I see Nintendo as the ace up their sleeve. They can afford to sit on it for awhile and decide what to do as the property is evergreen. It's not something that needs to instantly be built to take advantage of how popular it is in the moment.
I guess I just don't take any of what we're talking about in regards to Nintendo with even a grain of salt at this point. We're basically just throwing crap at the wall. Whatever happens, happens.Now you see the issue.
Keep in mind that it isn't like Orlando isn't going to be the only one waiting longer.Now you see the issue.