Wizarding World - Diagon Alley Discussion (Opens 2014)

[Jymmymack]

Yep, that's why I used it! :thumbs:

 

[Disneyhead]

I find it interesting that the construction is happening so quickly yet no announcement has been made. I feel like they should have said something to help assuage the loss of JAWS.

The fact it's Potter is Universal's "Best Kept Secret".

 

[VacadvArchitects]

Maybe they are just going to build a bigger and better JAWS attractions?

 

[Nick]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Universal Orlando Resort's identity before WWoHP was that of the redheaded stepchild. They WANT to sacrifice that identity.

There's a difference in stepping up competition with your competitor and sacrificing your identify. Right now they are completely up and throwing away their past to basically say "We sucked before, so bring on MOAR POTTER". I mean, at some point enough is enough imo. I know there is a big difference between them and Disney, but what do they have against trying out ORIGINAL attractions like Disney used to? Hell, Disney doesn't hardly do that any more. But I think If Uni tried, they could make one hell of an attraction and it wouldn't even need to be based on anything. After awhile, you just want to see something new. And i'm sorry, i'm sure Potter will be great, but we already have it. Why do we need more? At least so much?

 

[Kevin38]

Has anyone thought that if they do an indoor dark ride for Gringotts bank we will have two indoor dark rides almost next to each other.

The reason behind this is the same reasoning successful movies have sequels .
It is easy to make a Business case when you have existing data .
The WWoHP brings in buckets of money.
Something brand new is untried therefore risky.
Personally risky if it doesn't work you could lose your job in this economy.

 

[BJCool]

Has anyone thought that if they do an indoor dark ride for Gringotts bank we will have two indoor dark rides almost next to each other.

Well, we are under the impression that a Gringotts coaster will go in where JAWS was. So that would be the completely opposite side of the resort.

 

[JungleSkip]

There's a difference in stepping up competition with your competitor and sacrificing your identify.

One ride =/= your identity. Jaws was far from the most popular ride at UOR. People didn't come to USF to ride Jaws. They came to ride Rockit, or Mummy, or Simpsons. Jaws was a nice afterthought ride. It's loss, for the most part, is only a big deal to a small, select group of fans.

And besides, they're losing one Universal ride, and gaining another in Despicable Me. Not to mention a night show and parade.

I know there is a big difference between them and Disney, but what do they have against trying out ORIGINAL attractions like Disney used to?

Because an original ride would never bring in the money that Potter will. never.

And speaking of that money, we wouldn't be getting that spiffy new night show or parade without the Potter money. We wouldn't have gotten all the refurbs in IoA without it. So honestly, people really need to think about the whole situation.

Has anyone thought that if they do an indoor dark ride for Gringotts bank we will have two indoor dark rides almost next to each other.

As it's been said, this will be going in the Jaws area. And even if it was going right next to the original area, WDW has a whole land of dark rides right next to each other. It's called Fantasyland.

 

[Nick]

One ride =/= your identity. Jaws was far from the most popular ride at UOR. People didn't come to USF to ride Jaws. They came to ride Rockit, or Mummy, or Simpsons. Jaws was a nice afterthought ride. It's loss, for the most part, is only a big deal to a small, select group of fans.

And besides, they're losing one Universal ride, and gaining another in Despicable Me. Not to mention a night show and parade.

Because an original ride would never bring in the money that Potter will. never.

And speaking of that money, we wouldn't be getting that spiffy new night show or parade without the Potter money. We wouldn't have gotten all the refurbs in IoA without it. So honestly, people really need to think about the whole situation.

I didn't say there was a problem with having Potter. It's a great thing that it has helped Uni out so much. I love WWoHP, don't get me wrong. But eventually they are going to have to move on and find out a way to make it by without heavily relying on it. And I know that the Studios is going the a big year this year b/c of Potter. I'm thankful for that...but at the same time these are basic entertainment offerings you'd have thought they would have with them being open over 20 years now.

 

[TheDecemberists]

Has anyone thought that if they do an indoor dark ride for Gringotts bank we will have two indoor dark rides almost next to each other.

No, but I have noticed something that does bother me. IOA has one of the best dark rides on the planet, and then they added Forbidden Journey. Meanwhile, Universal Studios has an excellent dark ride/indoor rollercoaster combo, and it's getting Gringotts.

Am I the only one that feels like this should have been the other way around?

 

[Disneyhead]

No, but I have noticed something that does bother me. IOA has one of the best dark rides on the planet, and then they added Forbidden Journey. Meanwhile, Universal Studios has an excellent dark ride/indoor rollercoaster combo, and it's getting Gringotts.

Am I the only one that feels like this should have been the other way around?

Well USF already is dark ride heavy and coaster lite. And IOA the other way around.

And it will all be a moot point when they only sell park hoppers.

 

[jtsalien]

No, but I have noticed something that does bother me. IOA has one of the best dark rides on the planet, and then they added Forbidden Journey. Meanwhile, Universal Studios has an excellent dark ride/indoor rollercoaster combo, and it's getting Gringotts.

Am I the only one that feels like this should have been the other way around?

No I definitely agree. I feel the studios needs a true dark ride, and the best chance we have is Transformers. But it is what is it. They're not adding Gringotts because the Studios needs a coaster, they're adding for the sake of more Potter.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. New attractions are new attracions. But if I had it my way, I'd put a water coaster in Toon Lagoon or dark ride/coaster combo in Seuss and more of a dark right in the Studios.

 

[JungleSkip]

I feel the studios needs a true dark ride

ET and MIB.:wave:

 

[jtsalien]

ET and MIB.:wave:

Okay, then upgrade ET! . Like I updated my post to say, I'll take what we're getting. But I would have preferred something closer to ET.

 

[JungleSkip]

But if I had it my way, I'd put a water coaster in Toon Lagoon

Please no. IoA already has too many water rides as is.

Okay, then upgrade ET! . Like I updated my post to say, I'll take what we're getting. But I would have preferred something closer to ET.

I still think there's another ride coming in the expansion.

 

[UNIrd]

I think the castle tour should have been an ominimover, and the queue could have started in the castle grounds and moved into the interior for the ride. And Forbidden Journey a separate attraction. But that's just me.

I'm hoping there won't be two years of nothing new until Potter opens in 2015 either. I hope they focus on KidZone over at the studios and work in a new ride there.

 

[Scarletwebslingr]

One ride =/= your identity. Jaws was far from the most popular ride at UOR. People didn't come to USF to ride Jaws. They came to ride Rockit, or Mummy, or Simpsons. Jaws was a nice afterthought ride. It's loss, for the most part, is only a big deal to a small, select group of fans.

And besides, they're losing one Universal ride, and gaining another in Despicable Me. Not to mention a night show and parade.



Because an original ride would never bring in the money that Potter will. never.

And speaking of that money, we wouldn't be getting that spiffy new night show or parade without the Potter money. We wouldn't have gotten all the refurbs in IoA without it. So honestly, people really need to think about the whole situation.



As it's been said, this will be going in the Jaws area. And even if it was going right next to the original area, WDW has a whole land of dark rides right next to each other. It's called Fantasyland.

The night show, parade, and refurbs were with money earned by IOA's WWoHP. That's fine. I don't think anybody has too big a problem with HP at IOA. Islands of Adventure, since opening, has reflected several third party franchises, hence Potter being right at home. A park called Universal Studios should not have the same leeway as IOA since it is reflective of a single company. The problem people are having isn't Potter. It's the idea of rapidly selling out a park's representation that should only be representing itself by definition alone.

 

[JungleSkip]

The night show, parade, and refurbs were with money earned by IOA's WWoHP. That's fine. I don't think anybody has too big a problem with HP at IOA. Islands of Adventure, since opening, has reflected several third party franchises, hence Potter being right at home. A park called Universal Studios should not have the same leeway as IOA since it is reflective of a single company. The problem people are having isn't Potter. It's the idea of rapidly selling out a park's representation that should only be representing itself by definition alone.

Hannah-Barbara = Neutron = Not Uni. Now will be Uni with Despicable Me +1
Nick = Not Uni = Blue Man Group
Hitchcock = Kinda Uni (Universal didn't make Psycho, but handled re-releases) Now Shrek, which is Uni +1
Ghostbusters = not Uni. Now Twister which internationally was a Uni movie +1
Lucy = Not Uni
Kong = Uni = Mummy
Terminator 2 = not Uni
Jaws = Uni. becoming Potter, not Uni -1
MIB = Not Uni
ET = Uni
Curious George = Uni
Earthquake = Uni = Disaster (original attraction)
Beetlejuice = not Uni
Fear Factor = NBC = Uni
BTTF = Uni. Now Simpsons -1
Loss of Soundstage 44 -1

So in all honesty, we're even on attraction that're "Universal" from opening. The park has ALWAYS had attractions that have nothing to do with Universal and their movies. I think people make way too big of a deal over this.

 

[UNIrd]

Shrek isn't Universal. It's Dreamworks, which is part of Paramount.

But Universal has always been 'Ride the Movies,' not 'Ride the Movies Released by Universal Pictures'

 

[JungleSkip]

Shrek isn't Universal. It's Dreamworks, which is part of Paramount.

It was distributed by Universal, so it kinda is. Also, Dreamworks was independent when Shrek was released, and Dreamworks animation is currently independent.

 

[ReelJustice]

This is a flawed argument to begin with. Universal has and always will rely on 3rd party properties. Disney does too.

What do Star Tours, Tower of Terror, and Rocking Roller Coaster all have in common?