DHS Pixar Expansion/Sound Stage 1

[rhino4evr]

AH...a new gift shop...now that makes much more sense to me..ha ha ha.

 

[Cole]

I don't want to sound like i'm defending lesser-quality, but for one thing, the ride could easily be renamed. Second, the Race portion is a gimmick to add a sense of thrill like with Test Track. The dark ride part of RSR is the best part of the ride, hands down (and i've actually been on it). The ride could easily exist, dark ride only and be a great ride.

And I know everyone criticizes TDO for being cheap, and most of the time they are, but the rock work for Carsland was INSANELY expensive. If they went ahead with that again, I highly doubt we'd get any of the other rumored additions simply because of the inflated costs.

Truth be told, right now only a few select people know what's in store for this. But from everything i've been hearing, i'd expect some variation of what I posted in my prior post.

Well I just read your post as literally the ride ending after you see luigi and it's all over. I'm perfectly fine with a cars dark ride in fact I applaud it because of how good the ride portion is. I think if it was half a ride it would be like having the tests on test track without the outdoor portion. Disappointing at best

 

[Nick]

Well I just read your post as literally the ride ending after you see luigi and it's all over. I'm perfectly fine with a cars dark ride in fact I applaud it because of how good the ride portion is. I think if it was half a ride it would be like having the tests on test track without the outdoor portion. Disappointing at best

They would obviously redo parts of it to make the ride make sense, but i'm fairly certain what is being pitched for DHS (as far as Carsland) is that Dark ride version of RSR and Flo's V8 Cafe. Mater's is up in the air from what i've heard.

 

[jtsalien]

If they cut the racing portion then they are missing the entire point of radiator springs RACERS. That's really lame to me. They have space now why not use it? They don't even have to clone cars land just the ride. Rockwork or not it's still incredibly lazy. Rant over

I'm gonna go ahead and guess you've never actually been on RSR.

The "race" is by far the least interesting part of the ride.

 

[Cole]

I'm gonna go ahead and guess you've never actually been on RSR.

The "race" is by far the least interesting part of the ride.

I haven't and I definitely know that from seeing videos but it seems like it would be a incomplete ride without it the same way test track will feel incomplete without its finale

 

[Hedwig201]

Finally some news for Disney Parks...looks like they're finally getting the message. Here's my two-cents: They need to figure out what they are overall as a park. They need to identify what type of experience they're going to offer and how it differs from all the other parks. This will help massively when they try to really market this as new park on it's own. From what it seems, they're trying to market this towards the young boy/adult audience overall which is a logical move considering that people sometimes label MK as being "the park for girls". MK's advantage was that at the core, it was going to be so many things, a chance to step into the fantasy worlds...that's what Walt's intention was. DHS just seems so lost in terms of identity and direction. The "movie studios" thing never really took off....the main stream park-goers just don't really care about how the movies are made anymore, they want to be part of the action. That;s what Universal realized a long time ago and they've been building on that ever since.
If it were up to me, I'd keep the idea of the Show Business alive but turn towards a more "entertainment production" side. By that, they'll have some direction to base their attractions off of and that the same time it isn't as limiting as branding itself specifically as a "studio" park....One person mentioned a few pages back about possibly renaming the park as Disney Hollywood Adventure. That would be a perfect name should they go the show-bizz route. Calif Adventure obviously extends to representing the heart of that state where if Disney focuses on"Hollywood" it'll still be a good foundation to work Disney Magic into it. Hollywood is almost a fantasy land come reality. What you end up with is a park that has thrill and adventure under the idea of the production of entertainment. But ofcourse, Disney also realizes that MK has run out of all of it's room for more of Fantasyland-type rides. And what do they do? They make a very smart move at finding ways to shove these princesses elsewhere (Frozen taking over NWP and Frozen SF). This could actually end working well for Disney as they give the guests more opportunities to experience these characters. Going along with the idea of "production" Disney can also focus on Theatrical Productions, where they can sprinkle amazing shows here and there. And if Disney wants people to take this park seriously, these show better be on Broadway-level...they shouldn't resemble the shows at MK at all...I've never seen the B&B show but i've seen pictures and those costumes are just sad...This could also be another thing for them to market off of...I wouldn't be surprised if Frozen the Musical ended up coming to the parks before Broadway...they need to find ways to reel people in.
So, sorry about the long post...I' havent really been on here since DA opened and tbh I'm actually glad that Disney moving forward is actually up for discussion...let't hope they keep this momentum alive..

 

[UNIrd]

You know what else might help with Toy Story Mania's capacity? I don't know. Maybe adding another ride worth giving a damn? It's not just the only new ride that all families can do together, it's the only new ride in 6 YEARS. I promise, if they added something else, Toy Story Mania would have some of the heat off it's back.

 

[Nick]

You know what else might help with Toy Story Mania's capacity? I don't know. Maybe adding another ride worth giving a damn? It's not just the only new ride that all families can do together, it's the only new ride in 6 YEARS. I promise, if they added something else, Toy Story Mania would have some of the heat off it's back.

While I obviously agree and it's inexplicable that it's been so long since a new ride opened at DHS, the rid should've been built with a higher capacity from the start as I said in an earlier post. WDW isn't DLR in terms of tourism and DHS certainly isn't DCA in terms of ride capacity. They should've known from the start that the ride would get insane waits at a park with less to do and draws more people per year (especially at the time).

That said, the lack of new experiences at the park over the last few years is inexcusable.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Disney's Hollywood Adventure is something I've heard beyond Jim Hill's podcast with Len.

 

[IzzyB]

You know what else might help with Toy Story Mania's capacity? I don't know. Maybe adding another ride worth giving a damn? It's not just the only new ride that all families can do together, it's the only new ride in 6 YEARS. I promise, if they added something else, Toy Story Mania would have some of the heat off it's back.

I totally agree with this and even said that is why the budget for this needs to stay low so that another ride can be added which helps lines all over the park. But I don't think only 1 new ride will help much, they need about 3 or 4 more rides to help capacity and lines out and that is going to be a slow and painful process with Disney. The main reason they need so much is most people do not spend a full day here and so if there is more to ride they will just stay longer. They need to add enough to make this closer to a full day park. Because one new ride doesn't mean people won't be riding Toy Story, they still will be. So adding another track is a smart move.

 

[Cole]

Disney's Hollywood Adventure is something I've heard beyond Jim Hill's podcast with Len.

I'd be very happy if they made another name change, like the ring to Hollywood adventure aswell

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I totally agree with this and even said that is why the budget for this needs to stay low so that another ride can be added which helps lines all over the park. But I don't think only 1 new ride will help much, they need about 3 or 4 more rides to help capacity and lines out and that is going to be a slow and painful process with Disney. The main reason they need so much is most people do not spend a full day here and so if there is more to ride they will just stay longer. They need to add enough to make this closer to a full day park. Because one new ride doesn't mean people won't be riding Toy Story, they still will be. So adding another track is a smart move.

Can agree enough, they really gotta make this expansion as amazing as possible if they want a successful park. Hopefully they do the same with Epcot and AK after this

 

[Nick]

Can agree enough, they really gotta make this expansion as amazing as possible if they want a successful park. Hopefully they do the same with Epcot and AK after this

Well DAK is already in the middle of expansion. Not only with just Avatar, but Rivers of Light, additional restaurant capacity and expanding the main store by Tree of Life (which had lost some space when they put in the Mickey/Minnie M&G).

It's Epcot that really needs the help.

 

[Cole]

Well DAK is already in the middle of expansion. Not only with just Avatar, but Rivers of Light, additional restaurant capacity and expanding the main store by Tree of Life (which had lost some space when they put in the Mickey/Minnie M&G).

It's Epcot that really needs the help.

Well I think AK still needs a bit more even with avatar (that's one maybe 2 rides). They could easily replace dinoland or add more attractions else where since the park is still fairly empty with rides. I definitely agree though, Epcot is their next giant priority

 

[Nick]

Well I think AK still needs a bit more even with avatar (that's one maybe 2 rides). They could easily replace dinoland or add more attractions else where since the park is still fairly empty with rides. I definitely agree though, Epcot is their next giant priority

I agree it could definitely use more rides. Something needs to be done about Dinoland, but overall, the park is in great shape and has still stuck to it's original mission statement. The park just needs more rides.

 

[IzzyB]

Well I think AK still needs a bit more even with avatar (that's one maybe 2 rides). They could easily replace dinoland or add more attractions else where since the park is still fairly empty with rides. I definitely agree though, Epcot is their next giant priority

I think adding the two rides, the nighttime show, and everything else is good for now. You have to realize that AK is not about the rides, it is about the animals. So you can spend a good amount of time in the park with kids because they love to stop and look at the various animals. I agree dinoland was a cheap land that was build just to have something and does not fit. So some day I would like to see that eyesore torn down and made into something that fits the theme of the rest of the park, but that can wait. Epcot is the bigger fish to fry in 8 years when all these projects are done. Which is really sad, because 8 years is too far away for Epcot to get an expansion/redo. This just goes to show 4 parks is too much for any one company to handle.

 

[Nick]

I think adding the two rides, the nighttime show, and everything else is good for now. You have to realize that AK is not about the rides, it is about the animals. So you can spend a good amount of time in the park with kids because they love to stop and look at the various animals. I agree dinoland was a cheap land that was build just to have something and does not fit. So some day I would like to see that eyesore torn down and made into something that fits the theme of the rest of the park, but that can wait. Epcot is the bigger fish to fry in 8 years when all these projects are done. Which is really sad, because 8 years is too far away for Epcot to get an expansion/redo. This just goes to show 4 parks is too much for any one company to handle.

And unfortunately, in 8 years, Epcot will likely have deteriorated to an "Epcot-version" of the state DHS is in now. I say "Epcot-version" because nothing could ever be as bad as what DHS is now and Epcot will always have World Showcase. However, the future in Future World is looking awfully bleak at the moment.

And I'll always agree the company expanded too fast in WDW. I just don't buy for a second that they couldn't properly maintain (and add to) all four parks consistently if they actually tried without being cheap about it.

 

[twebber55]

Well I think AK still needs a bit more even with avatar (that's one maybe 2 rides). They could easily replace dinoland or add more attractions else where since the park is still fairly empty with rides. I definitely agree though, Epcot is their next giant priority

whether you re right or not the reality is after 2017 DAK will be done for a while in terms of construction..... DHS is well on its way to a rebranding...EPCOT is well its EPCOT i have no idea what they re doing with that

 

[Nick]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Imagination Pavilion went down within the next year or two for it's much needed redo. Rumor was that CMs were being cross trained last year and the pavilion was supposed to close in January this year, but they backed off of those plans. At the very least, I think if anything major is to happen at Epcot, that will be it.

What Epcot really needs though is to EXPAND. Last time that happened was all the way back in 1989. Wonders of Life and Norway both opened that year I believe. That's honestly sad as hell that it's been 25 years since true expansion has happened in that park.

 

[Cole]

The funny thing about Disney world is that they have a ridiculous amount of expansion plots. Doesn't Epcot have close to 10? I understand AK is mostly about the animals but it's still a theme park and it's one that's theme is falling apart wildly. I read somewhere the main plan for 4 parks was one park would get an attraction each year. So by the span of 4 years each park would get a part of the fake making for very complete parks. Tall order but could you imagine how amazing Disney would be if they stuck to it? This forum would probably be another little ol Disney forum and we'd all be speculating instead of arguing. We'd all be pixie dusters because it wouldn't matter if one year we got a crappy ride because we are getting another one next year!!! It's an alternate universe that should've and actually still could happen in the future but only if TDO makes it happen. I hope it does too because I want to love Disney the way I used to love it and I know you all do too

 

[IzzyB]

I think this summer really showed Disney that they do need to do something. Attendance was down in all parks except MK which had the most recent addition. I originally thought DHS attendance was not effected because of Frozen event, but I was recently given some information that tells me that DHS was effected and the attendance numbers were inflated by AP holders and employees. They are well aware of the profits going down for the parks this summer. While they are not in panic mode because Disney is a large company and well diversified, they are not taking this lightly. I think that is why we are hearing so many different rumors. I don't think EVERYTHING is going to happen at once, but I do see them moving on more things and more quickly. They took a drastic hit this summer in attendance and if it continues to trend down, they are not going to be in good shape. Plus remember attendance decrease means less money in hotels, food, and merchandise. So less people hits them pretty hard. It doesn't help that the park down the street did not see the same decrease, in fact Uni attendance went up. Sea World went down, but no one wants to compare themselves to Sea World right now since they are having their own issues for other things.