Disney Springs Discussion

[maxairmike]

Found this thanks to Magic. Considering how they're financing most of the infrastructure upgrades (garages, road improvements, etc.), this could be very significant for Disney.

As IRS cracks down on The Villages, Disney World watches
By Jason Garcia, Orlando Sentinel
10:50 p.m. EDT, July 13, 2013

The federal government recently cracked down on a lucrative tax break used by the developer of The Villages, the sprawling community northwest of Orlando that has been called Disney World for retirees.

That could be an ominous sign for the real Walt Disney World.

In a scathing decision issued in May, the Internal Revenue Service ruled that The Villages did not have the right to use tax-free debt to finance golf courses, swimming pools and other assets. The reason: The Villages sold the debt through an obscure government district whose leaders were ultimately controlled by the developer, rather than the general public, and therefore couldn't be considered real governments.

 

[Hockeyman55]

And so it begins. Denise with Mousesteps posted these photos on her Facebook page. Good luck to all those who try and park at DTD now

 

[IzzyB]

Yep, I heard construction begins today from a cast member.

 

[Cupcakes]

Hope construction won't take that long on the structure. Parking is a nightmare right now.

 

[IzzyB]

It is Disney, it will take longer than needed. My guess is into next year so they can have their tax break for next year

 

[Quint]

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/on-the-town/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/7/23/pleasure_island_demo.html

 

[King_K.]

Well, I said I'd wait to see it to believe it. So I guess I believe it now.

 

[SeventyOne]

Well, I said I'd wait to see it to believe it. So I guess I believe it now.

Tore down Beach Club and Fireworks Factory, too. Just because TDO wants a scorched earth policy to look like they know what they are doing doesn't mean their plan for a new lifestyle mall will work. To paraphrase Steve Perry, don't start believing ...

 

[PourJudgment]

Last week when they closed off one of the biggest most convenient parking lots and brought in the construction equipment, I believed it.

 

[Hockeyman55]

I can wait to read some of the horror stories of people trying to park on super busy nights now

 

[Cupcakes]

Last weekend when my family and I went to see a movie at the AMC there, we had to park in the parking lot way past Cirque.

If that's what it is like on normal nights, then I'm sure there will be no place to park at all on peak nights.

 

[Hockeyman55]

So I wonder how long until they start using Typhoon Lagoon's parking lot a night and start shuttling people over

 

[STL]

No, seriously....where ARE people going to park now?

 

[Eckert]

No, seriously....where ARE people going to park now?

At the hotels and parks, of course! Now Downtown Disney is on par with CityWalk: you gotta pay to get in.

 

[Teebin]

How many people go to DTD at night these days anyway? Pleasure Island has been gone for years... I would think it would have been desolate; not a parking issue at all. It was a ghost town the last few times I visited, although it was in the afternoon.

 

[Hockeyman55]

How many people go to DTD at night these days anyway? Pleasure Island has been gone for years... I would think it would have been desolate; not a parking issue at all. It was a ghost town the last few times I visited, although it was in the afternoon.

Afternoons are the best time to go if you are looking to get in and out pretty quick. At night the place is still jumping and isnt unusual to have to wait an hour plus for a table at places like trex and rain forest. I do think Fri and Sat nights might be a little more busier than during the week though.

 

[maxairmike]

Night is still pretty busy most times of the year, even without PI, and I often find myself stalking spots if I really want to park in the Marketplace area. If there's also a popular movie at the theater, then it gets even harder if you don't want to park on the other side of Cirque.

 

[IzzyB]

Yeah, we always have issues as night and my mom the other say said she drove around for about 20 minutes looking for a spot.

 

[Nick]

How many people go to DTD at night these days anyway? Pleasure Island has been gone for years... I would think it would have been desolate; not a parking issue at all. It was a ghost town the last few times I visited, although it was in the afternoon.

Night had still been pretty busy when I was there right before the walls went up. Marketplace is always the busiest, but even without the clubs, PI was pretty damn busy. Lots of people would gather for the live bands, living statues and even the live music from Paridiso 37. You can see/hear it w/o even going in, so i've seen crowds gather just to watch.

 

[SeventyOne]

No, seriously....where ARE people going to park now?

Went to a movie last night. Didn't even try to park up front, but still literally acres of open parking behind Cirque. As is tradition.

Christmas week might prove challenging, but for now, if you know where to go, not much different from any busy weekend.