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Cloning the "Beyond Big Thunder Mountain" Villains land would be a no brainer for DL Forward, but something tells me that the Villains IP would be a better fit for Disneyland than DCA. But maybe they could make it work at DCA.
If there is any land I think would be perfect for the Disney Forward expansion space, it's a Villain's Kingdom. It would work especially well as an extension of Disneyland for the "anti-Fantasyland". Have a Night on Bald Mountain Expedition Everest-style roller coaster, maybe a C-ticket FL dark ride or two involving the Black Cauldron or Maleficent, a Dumbo spinner themed to ravens that goes backwards and a skeleton carousel that goes backwards, and maybe a flume ride through Capt Hook's Skull Rock....you would have yourself a banger land for Disneyland.
 
If there is any land I think would be perfect for the Disney Forward expansion space, it's a Villain's Kingdom. It would work especially well as an extension of Disneyland for the "anti-Fantasyland". Have a Night on Bald Mountain Expedition Everest-style roller coaster, maybe a C-ticket FL dark ride or two involving the Black Cauldron or Maleficent, a Dumbo spinner themed to ravens that goes backwards and a skeleton carousel that goes backwards, and maybe a flume ride through Capt Hook's Skull Rock....you would have yourself a banger land for Disneyland.
Another option for a Villains ride as a E ticket could involve using the TDS Pan and Avengers Multiverse ride system for a ride guests team up and witness all the major Disney Villains over the years duke it out. The ride can have re-ride ability with you the guests experiencing different villains each go around and can be updated as more villains get introduced down the line.
 
Another option for a Villains ride as a E ticket could involve using the TDS Pan and Avengers Multiverse ride system for a ride guests team up and witness all the major Disney Villains over the years duke it out. The ride can have re-ride ability with you the guests experiencing different villains each go around and can be updated as more villains get introduced down the line.
Slow down with the blue sky stuff.
 
Yeah, the blue sky stuff really sets people up for disappointment. If IU opens up a betting line, I'd put 100:1 odds on it using an existing new ride system and 10:1 on it being an exact/substantially similar import of another ride, and I'd bet heavily on a clone/adaptation of Pandora.

At this point, Disney has proven over the past decade that they have no problem messing with exclusivity. I don't necessarily have an issue with this at all, but it does temper my expectations. Disney does not think that they are cannibalizing vacations by building the same attraction on both coasts and they are probably right.

In fact, if you exclude Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge (which only opened two months before Hollywood Studios anyway), cloned/adapted rides, and any substantially rethemed rides, Disneyland has not had a new unique ride since Indiana Jones in 1995, or almost three decades. I'm intentionally using the word ride instead of attraction since that would include meet and greets and such, but the point remains that, bluntly speaking, Disney does not build new rides on the West Coast. That is a sobering reality and I don't expect that to change with Disneyland Forward.

(IU casino when?!?!)
 
In fact, if you exclude Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge (which only opened two months before Hollywood Studios anyway), cloned/adapted rides, and any substantially rethemed rides, Disneyland has not had a new unique ride since Indiana Jones in 1995, or almost three decades. I'm intentionally using the word ride instead of attraction since that would include meet and greets and such, but the point remains that, bluntly speaking, Disney does not build new rides on the West Coast. That is a sobering reality and I don't expect that to change with Disneyland Forward.

(IU casino when?!?!)
If you only count Disneyland as a whole then yes but include DCA and it's quite a different new ride on the West coast argument.

Largely agree with what you say though and I don't mind the clones on each coast. Many people don't travel to both resorts, at least not enough for clones to be detrimental.
 
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If you only count Disneyland as a whole then yes but include DCA and it's quite a different new ride on the West coast argument.

Largely agree with what you say though and I don't mind the clones on each coast. Many people don't travel to both resorts, at least not enough for clones to be detrimental.
I can take a few but.....it's three in a row at this point at DLR.

It's time for some exclusive rides. I don't need everything to be just here but would not mind a few only in USA rides at DLR.
 
I can take a few but.....it's three in a row at this point at DLR.

It's time for some exclusive rides. I don't need everything to be just here but would not mind a few only in USA rides at DLR.
Avengers E ticket should help this. Assuming it’s a gem.

Hollywood land could become Zootopia, maybe. They could put that there instead of WDW surely.
 
Avengers E ticket should help this. Assuming it’s a gem.

Hollywood land could become Zootopia, maybe. They could put that there instead of WDW surely.
It feels like if the Avatar thing is coming to Hollywood...they wont do Zootopia there

Maybe in the Forward area's but, yes I'd love Zootopia where Hollywood is. It has a 3D Theater so we can replace it with the show coming to AK and then have the D/E ticket ride in the old Millionaire building/Monsters Inc
 
It feels like if the Avatar thing is coming to Hollywood...they wont do Zootopia there

Maybe in the Forward area's but, yes I'd love Zootopia where Hollywood is. It has a 3D Theater so we can replace it with the show coming to AK and then have the D/E ticket ride in the old Millionaire building/Monsters Inc
I feel it visually fits better too. Do Avatar in the expansion.
 
Makes sense, we will be losing some parking so you have to have it somewhere or else most people can't show up
 
Five Fires was doing a Youtube Video where he was going over the DL Forward impact report where they laid out what types of rides noise levels and building heights for sight lines. Someone in the comment section claims that if DL Forward is approved they will have to stick with the heights of the building laid out in these proposals. I assume this means Disney can still build different types of rides than those laid out in the proposal as long as they can figure out how to keep the height and sight lines of the buildings in check. I have a feeling that the final product of DL forward will look a lot different in a lot of ways from the current outline/proposal.
 
If you only count Disneyland as a whole then yes but include DCA and it's quite a different new ride on the West coast argument.

Largely agree with what you say though and I don't mind the clones on each coast. Many people don't travel to both resorts, at least not enough for clones to be detrimental.
I don't really mind the clones since A. They tend to not replace rides as much, B. I'd much rather have everything in a small walkable area rather than spread out across four underbuilt parks
 
I don't really mind the clones since A. They tend to not replace rides as much, B. I'd much rather have everything in a small walkable area rather than spread out across four underbuilt parks
While I agree to a point, I'm just not a fan of them raising prices as they cut back costs on everything. Like you want to make Clone rides, great then get them done quicker and make sure the rides are the best new rides we have. But I'm just not a fan of what I see is cost cutting and it's not befitting the guests, CM or parks.
 
Well for the heavy majority of people, people who typically travel to Orlando aren’t going to go out of their way to DLR to ride RSR and Indy or people who are DLR frequents travel to WDW for Avatar.
 
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Well for the heavy majority of people, people who typically travel to Orlando aren’t going to go out of their way to DLR to ride RSR and Indy or people who are DLR frequents travel to WDW for Avatar.
Very true. Cloning also saves money/makes the most of an investment in the development of the attraction.