Disney's Beauty and the Beast (2017)

[Nick]

Depends on world of mouth. As I stated multiple times, its a classic is if its not as good as people hope then bad word of mouth may kill the nostalgia factor already there. Also Jungle book wasn't on consideration to be banned in other countries while this is already being suggested to be banned in Russia

Russia Could Ban Disney’s ‘Beauty & The Beast’ As “Gay Propaganda” | Deadline

If Russia bans it for that reason then who gives a damn. Just shows what type of a country they truly are (as if we didn't already know).

 

[GAcoaster]

I would guess that Disney can edit this minor subplot out for distribution in Russia and the Middle East and anywhere else it could be a roadblock to getting it in theaters.

 

[Mad Dog]

I would guess that Disney can edit this minor subplot out for distribution in Russia and the Middle East and anywhere else it could be a roadblock to getting it in theaters.

Makes sense. Editing films distributed in foreign countries for controversy or to fix rating codes is pretty common.

 

[Nick]

I would guess that Disney can edit this minor subplot out for distribution in Russia and the Middle East and anywhere else it could be a roadblock to getting it in theaters.

Especially since it's probably not even a sub-plot most would notice had Disney not come out and said it themselves.

 

[Mad Dog]

SNL just had some pretty pertinent comments on the B&B movie on their News segment. They hit the mark quite well putting down the complainers.

 

[Teebin]

tourism must be through the roof in that neck of the woods... I wouldn't know as I drive around that state... :blank:

 

[Nick]

Jeremy Jahns and Chris Stuckmann both said they liked it so this should be an enjoyable movie as far as i'm concerned. I typically have the same taste in movies as them.

 

[UNIrd]

I just heard about this gay character thing. I guessed it would've been Lumiere and Cogsworth. Turns out it's LeFou.

 

[Nick]

I just heard about this gay character thing. I guessed it would've been Lumiere and Cogsworth. Turns out it's LeFou.

Let's be honest, LeFou was never straight.

 

[UNIrd]

Let's be honest, LeFou was never straight.

Well, he makes a fabulous Brew.

 

[Tobias]

Especially since it's probably not even a sub-plot most would notice had Disney not come out and said it themselves.

Pretty much, from what I've read and heard from those who have seen it, it's not even a sub-plot. It's a really miniscule thing, far less then what the articles are puffing itself up as.

For me when it comes to LeFou being touted as gay, I have to ask "Why Him?". LeFou, who translates as "The Fool", who's gonna' be longing after a man who probably doesn't have the same attraction towards him, and the most we're probably gonna' get from this is him confessing his "love" to Gaston when Gaston dies. As I said before, from what I've heard this whole thing is very miniscule, so does Disney really want brownie points for a tiny thing which can come off rather unnecessary and not so positive in it's portrayal?

I'm all fine and dandy with Disney having a openly gay character, but LeFou is not the kind of character I'd make that...nor be trying to tout it. (Meanwhile Prince John and Sir Hiss from Robin Hood are practically a couple, same with Jumba and Pleakley from Lilo & Stitch.)

 

[RevFreako]

Pretty much, from what I've read and heard from those who have seen it, it's not even a sub-plot. It's a really miniscule thing, far less then what the articles are puffing itself up as.

For me when it comes to LeFou being touted as gay, I have to ask "Why Him?". LeFou, who translates as "The Fool", who's gonna' be longing after a man who probably doesn't have the same attraction towards him, and the most we're probably gonna' get from this is him confessing his "love" to Gaston when Gaston dies. As I said before, from what I've heard this whole thing is very miniscule, so does Disney really want brownie points for a tiny thing which can come off rather unnecessary and not so positive in it's portrayal?

I'm all fine and dandy with Disney having a openly gay character, but LeFou is not the kind of character I'd make that...nor be trying to tout it. (Meanwhile Prince John and Sir Hiss from Robin Hood are practically a couple, same with Jumba and Pleakley from Lilo & Stitch.)

There's an argument to be made from a certain point of view, but then again, it's not like it's not just building on the subtext from the movie ad, to a greater extent, the Broadway show. I'd be more inclined to agree had Lefou presented as stright in the original, and

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becomes a sympathetic character by the end of the movie. Plus, I never saw Lefou as a bad guy in the first place, just a bt misguided in who he looks up to.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

/at beer release party and decides to check OU

Oh. OH.

Thread is locked. I'm heading back home and let @BriMan know about this.

Triggered. I try to just educate or explain to people rather than burst out and even then there is no point sometimes. I just find it sad that in todays time people are still like, "there's a gay character!"

Your use of "triggered" and identity politics is becoming an extreme issue. Pause it dude. This is your second warning today.

@darkridelover this is your second warning too. There are better ways of handling this, chill.

 

[Brian G.]

I don't know what is in the water lately but several threads have been derailed by confrontational forms of debate. We're going to have to get really serious about handing out bans for this. It's not fun for other members, or even people who think about joining this thread that see topics severely get taken off-topic with heated exchanges.

As @testtrack321 said, that's 2 warnings for you @darkridelover and @Miketheboss - I don't want to ban you guys so please don't force my hand and have us find another thread where we see you guys getting into it.

I'm cleaning up this thread again for obvious reasons. Not censoring, not anything else, but simply to have this thread get back to a normalized discussion.

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[Scott W.]

Depends on world of mouth. As I stated multiple times, its a classic is if its not as good as people hope then bad word of mouth may kill the nostalgia factor already there. Also Jungle book wasn't on consideration to be banned in other countries while this is already being suggested to be banned in Russia

Russia Could Ban Disney’s ‘Beauty & The Beast’ As “Gay Propaganda” | Deadline

I find is concerning that people have an issue with a gay character but seem to have no problem with a woman and a beast falling in love.

 

[foodstampsFTW]

But it's a human who was cursed as a beast, isn't she falling in love with the human side of him.

 

[Nick]

But it's a human who was cursed as a beast, isn't she falling in love with the human side of him.

No, she falls in love with the beast, which is how he turns human again.

 

[quinnmac000]

No, she falls in love with the beast, which is how he turns human again.

Nah, the beast was transspecies. He transformed to a beast then realized he truly identified as a human and later became that way with love.

 

[Nick]

Nah, the beast was transspecies. He transformed to a beast then realized he truly identified as a human and later became that way with love.

Ok, now I'm just getting confused

 

[foodstampsFTW]

Nah, the beast was transspecies. He transformed to a beast then realized he truly identified as a human and later became that way with love.

Oh my god, lol