Fast & Furious: Supercharged - General Discussion

[JungleSkip]

If Universal pluses USH's version just enough the guests will eat it up simply because it's F&F. But if they fail to deliver on an attraction that will be a big draw when it opens, guests may eat it up at first, but they'll spit it out at the end. Doesn't matter if it's the average guest or not.

There's a reason why Stitches Great Escape has consistent 5 minute waits. It sucks and everyone knows it (or at least they do by the time they get out).

I'd respectfully disagree with comparing this with Stitch's Great Escape. SGE offers nothing to anyone. It's too scary for its target demographic, and not interesting enough for the parents/teens. It also features the jerk Stitch and not the lovable one people actually want to see.

Supercharged does offer what I think the GP wants from a F&F ride for the most part. Good-natured cheese, ridiculous action, and the familiar characters how they should be. Now, I think it doesn't perfectly catch the franchise's spirit, but it does it well enough where the normal guests are in no way going to outright reject it.

Again, I think this is a huge waste of potential and space, but to think this is going to be a big flop is a bit of wishful thinking, IMO. To me, this is basically Star Tours 2.0. ST2 has terrible pacing, terrible dialogue, and is kind of a lame attraction overall. But the GP loves it. I see this being a similar situation.

 

[Quint]

How might they solve that on this one in OrlandoI wonder?

VDL?

 

[Teebin]

VDL?

Wild idea. Would they use that again do you think?

 

[Viator]

Wild idea. Would they use that again do you think?

Anything's possible but it could be a very good idea. They already have a relationship with Universal and it could be done very well.

 

[richjagr]

Wild idea. Would they use that again do you think?

Wrap up installation and testing on one ride and start the next with the same team, makes sense to me, but my logic and theme park operation logic do not always mesh.

 

[UniversalCityFL]

Here's what I would have done. Just pure fantasy.




I'd use up the space in the old card access lot which was once used for the executives in B-110, but is now pretty much dead space now that there is a parking garage with skybridge for those working in that building.

 

[Quint]

Wild idea. Would they use that again do you think?

I think you should have inserted a ":wave:" or ":thumbsup:" in your post.

 

[Nick]

I'd respectfully disagree with comparing this with Stitch's Great Escape. SGE offers nothing to anyone. It's too scary for its target demographic, and not interesting enough for the parents/teens. It also features the jerk Stitch and not the lovable one people actually want to see.

Supercharged does offer what I think the GP wants from a F&F ride for the most part. Good-natured cheese, ridiculous action, and the familiar characters how they should be. Now, I think it doesn't perfectly catch the franchise's spirit, but it does it well enough where the normal guests are in no way going to outright reject it.

Again, I think this is a huge waste of potential and space, but to think this is going to be a big flop is a bit of wishful thinking, IMO. To me, this is basically Star Tours 2.0. ST2 has terrible pacing, terrible dialogue, and is kind of a lame attraction overall. But the GP loves it. I see this being a similar situation.

The difference between this and ST2.0 is Star Tours isn't a waste of space and was already existing. This is complete demo in order to misuse the space.

 

[JungleSkip]

The difference between this and ST2.0 is Star Tours isn't a waste of space and was already existing. This is complete demo in order to misuse the space.

I'm not going to disagree with that, but the general guest doesn't care about that. No one outside the theme park community is going to think "Why did they use all that space for this?"

 

[martymcflyy85]

It's not that I knew little about it, but my brain had split the dancing girls scene from the truck rising out of the floor scene, making it two musion sets. Otherwise, I was mostly impressed by the 360 scene... it looks thrilling.

The first scene in Orlando doesn't appear as the first scene in Hollywood, but smaller.

Changing subject now, let me ask some of the naysayers here two questions. How would you feel if one additional large scene was composed of animatronic workers; 1 welding at a bench, 2 polishing a different car, and a fourth removing lug nuts from the tires of a third car and a small musion with two majors arguing plot in the foreground?

or...

How many would rather have a mega coaster themed to F&F that reaches 85 mph at one straight run point with screeching tire effects and smoke and other stuff like that?

I am just curious as to what you would rather have?

This is a great question. Actually a combination of the 2 would be the perfect ride. Although, I'd make the AA scene a little more exciting. Instead of just guys working on cars, how about a city scene SET with a REAL car coming towards you and some big FIRE explosion, followed by the great speed coaster part at the end. Doesn't have to be 85 mph. Just something like Test Track, where you can feel the wind hitting you in the face. And having it be a race with another car on the same track would be even better.

 

[Tucker]

This is a great question. Actually a combination of the 2 would be the perfect ride. Although, I'd make the AA scene a little more exciting. Instead of just guys working on cars, how about a city scene SET with a REAL car coming towards you and some big FIRE explosion, followed by the great speed coaster part at the end. Doesn't have to be 85 mph. Just something like Test Track, where you can feel the wind hitting you in the face. And having it be a race with another car on the same track would be even better.

I will say that as much as I dislike the F&F franchise, that sounds amazing! :thumbsup: If this attraction takes up as much space as speculated, it better knock one out of the park.. I wouldn't bet on Uni using that much space if it's not worth it.

 

[ChrisFL]

And Rollercoasters, relatively speaking, are cheap. I like Kuribo's idea.

 

[Quint]

Anyone remember the height requirement on Kong? Just wondering what the potential height requirement will be on this.

 

[AK-Jake]

Changing subject now, let me ask some of the naysayers here two questions. How would you feel if one additional large scene was composed of animatronic workers; 1 welding at a bench, 2 polishing a different car, and a fourth removing lug nuts from the tires of a third car and a small musion with two majors arguing plot in the foreground?

or...

How many would rather have a mega coaster themed to F&F that reaches 85 mph at one straight run point with screeching tire effects and smoke and other stuff like that?

I am just curious as to what you would rather have?

Coaster, all the way. They could make it part dark ride and part coaster (kind of like Mummy did...but on a much MUCH grander scale). There is literally SO much they could be doing on this ride! I will say that I rode the Hollywood version 3 weeks ago. I found it to be truly AWFUL--and I'm about as die-hard Universal Fanboi as they come--but this was an EPIC disappointment. If this cheesy ride were converted to an actual type of cheese, it'd be called "Fumunda," because that's how bad it stinks. One of the worst attractions to grace USH outside of "Spiderman Rocks!" and "Creature from the Black Lagoon: The Musical." Yes, I realize I am comparing a tram attraction to 2 shows and I'm doing that intentionally...because they were all BAD.

You know what the funny thing is though? The GP seemed to enjoy it...and I'm talking your average, "I get to do this once a year" kind of guest that doesn't have huge, discerning tastes like those of us on here do. I did the tour 3 times (V.I.P. Tour, so I got front-of-line passes once the V.I.P. experience ended) and each time people thoroughly enjoyed it. The lines were pretty long all day long (an hour or so, sometimes longer), and each time, people were thrilled when F&F ended. One time was absolute cheering and insanity, and another (the last time I went on it) was enthusiastic clapping with lots of eager chatting amongst the groups. The V.I.P. Tour (first time I experienced it) was filled with more serious, discerning fans and park-goers, and they (outside of a foreign couple) weren't very impressed. A couple of pixie-dust snorters flat-out made fun of the experience.

So that goes to tell you that USH has a big hit on their hands with F&F: Supercharged and Orlando will as well. We park snobs don't matter to those at Universal Creative, or to the management at Parks and Resorts or even Comcast. They know we'll come anyway, so they can build whatever they want so long as it drives in the general public in droves...and it will in Orlando, even if it is a "sucky clone."

I don't think people realize that for a ride to achieve any kind of speed and offer a ride of more than 15 seconds it would require running it from one end of the park to the other. The illusion of speed is all we could ever expect using the space available.

I really think everyone needs to reserve judgement on this and Fallon and any other project until they actually ride them. Jumping to conclusions now is just pointless...

They could build a large show building with multiple levels like they did on Transformers. They could do a sub-level, a ground level and a second level...with each level having different sets, screens, and high-speed runs (like a coaster). Yes, the amount of space in the Disaster/BJ plot is limited, but there are options they could do with it. There are drift coasters and other sorts of ride systems they could play with to make this thing a first-of-its-kind experience...but it sounds like they're not going that route.

I'll simply say that after experiencing the awfulness that was Hollywood's F&F, I'm severely disappointed by what I'm hearing is coming to Orlando. However, until I experience the ride myself, I am holding my judgement and will sit back, wait and see. For all we know, it's going to be a kick-ass experience, and if it isn't, we still got a new ride, USF will have yet ANOTHER hit on their hands, and we'll see what new hotness is coming down the road in 2018 and beyond. I couldn't care less about Nintendoland, but that doesn't mean it's not going to be amazeballs!

 

[Ryan]

Even with Teebin's new revelations, I still see this as a total misfire. More show scenes with more musion? That's totally what F&F is about!

I hope the GA likes their cars. I hope the RV looks neat. I hope we all don't kill each other in the theme park community when this debuts.

 

[tielo]

More and more tests are done with cars driving them self. In the Netherlands they do real world testing with this technology. What if we got a real, high speed attraction with a race between 2 cars using that system, crossing each other and all. Stuntdrivers could do the base data and the board computer could re-enact that with all kind of fail safety options in there. All in original cars and upped with explosions and stuff!
If Universal wanted to let you ride the movie it would be exactly that.

 

[ThreePack Shagur]

lol you guys just couldn't resist saying it, so I won't either. This is the Kong ride system. I'm hearing more of an armored-vehicle look for the RVs.

 

[mainejeff]

I feel like the USO park is becoming "soul-less" compared to IOA......if it weren't for Potter, ET and Minions, I really feel an emotional disconnect with the park. That is what has me a bit worried with future lands and attractions at Universal......F&F, Nintendo, etc. They may have super cool rides......but people won't have a genuine emotional connection to the IPs and characters like ET, Kong, Potter, Suess, and JP. Maybe that is their plan? Mega tech that wows the public.......but with relatively limited shelf lives that they can change out every decade when the new "it" IP comes along.

 

[Brian G.]

Nintendo will have a soul. :thumbsup:

 

[JungleSkip]

I feel like the USO park is becoming "soul-less" compared to IOA......if it weren't for Potter, ET and Minions, I really feel an emotional disconnect with the park. That is what has me a bit worried with future lands and attractions at Universal......F&F, Nintendo, etc. They may have super cool rides......but people won't have a genuine emotional connection to the IPs and characters like ET, Kong, Potter, Suess, and JP. Maybe that is their plan? Mega tech that wows the public.......but with relatively limited shelf lives that they can change out every decade when the new "it" IP comes along.

Mario is one of the most endearing and well-liked characters in the world. Not to mention Link, Peach, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, etc. People will have an emotional connection. As for F&F, people don't make the movie the 4th highest grossing ever without an emotional connection.