Halloween Horror Nights 30 (UOR) - Speculation & Rumors (2021)

[Living Dead Dude]

I could actually see the RE Netflix series replacing Hill House. No idea on what the locations will be like in the new show. But, there's a good chance that gothic mansion interiors would be featured, and could maybe be re-used from Hill House if that doesn't end up coming back.

I didn’t even think of that and they would basically need to change very little. Prob would keep Netflix happy as free advertising to a new show rather then a show that’s been out for 3 years

 

[Nick]

If another Netflix property were to come in, why wouldn't they just do a half and half house? A Netflix House of Horrors if you will.

 

[DannyPowers]

If another Netflix property were to come in, why wouldn't they just do a half and half house? A Netflix House of Horrors if you will.

It's possible, but it lacks any promotion for a new/upcoming series. Last year, Hill House was going to be used to promote Bly Manor. That series hasn't been renewed for a third series, and Flanagan is actually currently working on Midnight Mass (which probably won't be out until next year sometime).

 

[Nick]

It's possible, but it lacks any promotion for a new/upcoming series. Last year, Hill House was going to be used to promote Bly Manor. That series hasn't been renewed for a third series, and Flanagan is actually currently working on Midnight Mass (which probably won't be out until next year sometime).

The promotion is Netflix's name in the park for 2 months. Also, by people going to see the house, they would likely go back to watch the show. If it were to perform extraordinarily well on Netflix, it could get a third anthology season.

 

[DannyPowers]

The promotion is Netflix's name in the park for 2 months. Also, by people going to see the house, they would likely go back to watch the show. If it were to perform extraordinarily well on Netflix, it could get a third anthology season.

Not saying it's not possible. I just think Netflix is more interested in promoting a new series that no one has seen yet, and driving new/renewed subscriptions. Rather than promoting something that's two years old, that most of the folks that are attending have already seen.

 

[Nick]

Not saying it's not possible. I just think Netflix is more interested in promoting a new series that no one has seen yet, and driving new/renewed subscriptions. Rather than promoting something that's two years old, that most of the folks that are attending have already seen.

That takes away the entire reason Universal wanted it. They wanted it because it was a known and liked IP.

 

[DannyPowers]

That takes away the entire reason Universal wanted it. They wanted it because it was a known and liked IP.

...and Netflix agreed to the license because, it would draw eyes to the new season coming out.

Again, I'm not saying that Hill House is getting pulled. I'm just saying, if I were Netflix, I'd see if we could work something out to promote our new series.

And if I were Universal, I would see that it might not be very hard to swap out, it would make a good partner happy, RE is an already established horror property...and heck...they might even be able to get some extra cash to help with the swap.

 

[Living Dead Dude]

That takes away the entire reason Universal wanted it. They wanted it because it was a known and liked IP.

I believe they wanted it because it was popular but it was in no way as popular as stranger things. I absolutely think universal saw Bly Manor as a chance to make Hill house relevant again. By the time HHN comes around Hill House will be close to 3 years old. What’s the point of promoting it at this point? Netflix doesn’t need to promote Netflix because basically everybody at this point knows what Netflix is. Resident Evil has been one of the best selling Horror game series since 1996. It’s had countless games and movies since then and now a new series coming. I’m not saying universal will change Hill House I’m just saying it would make sense from a promotional view point

 

[Legacy]

If Universal wanted something as unique as Billie they could go the game route with Resident Evil. While it’s not nearly as popular as Billie the new game drops in May and could also be used as synergy for the Resident Evil Netflix show that should be releasing this year!

You’re right. It’s not nearly as popular. It’s nowhere close. And the only reason Universal was doing Billie was because of popularity.

“Video games” are still widely considered a lower-tier medium in respect to gauging cultural popularity. It falls well behind movies, TV shows, and music as determining something that “matters” to the zeitgeist. While fans often want to just compare popularity dollar to dollar, doing that ignores the much higher cost of entry to video games. The average video game price is 3-6x higher than the average movie ticket price.

Resident Evil 7 has sold just over 8 million copies worldwide. It’s Capcom’s 2nd-best selling single-release of a game of the best selling horror video game franchise.

Resident Evil: The Final Chapter, which had the best global release of the RE movies, made $314 globally. Based on an average $15 ticket price for the global market, nearly 21 million people saw the movie. In reality, the movie had more cultural impact.

A video game, by itself, is not going to be enough for Universal to make a house.

But, they have the TV show coming to Netflix. The problem with that is no one knows how good or popular the show will be. Universal needs to start designing houses now, not after the numbers are in.

Basically, don’t expect Resident Evil.

And, to touch on Hill House, Universal has already bought the license. They already have a recognizable IP. They have no incentive to get rid of it when all the cost is spent and changing it requires more expense.

 

[Living Dead Dude]

You’re right. It’s not nearly as popular. It’s nowhere close. And the only reason Universal was doing Billie was because of popularity.

“Video games” are still widely considered a lower-tier medium in respect to gauging cultural popularity. It falls well behind movies, TV shows, and music as determining something that “matters” to the zeitgeist. While fans often want to just compare popularity dollar to dollar, doing that ignores the much higher cost of entry to video games. The average video game price is 3-6x higher than the average movie ticket price.

Resident Evil 7 has sold just over 8 million copies worldwide. It’s Capcom’s 2nd-best selling single-release of a game of the best selling horror video game franchise.

Resident Evil: The Final Chapter, which had the best global release of the RE movies, made $314 globally. Based on an average $15 ticket price for the global market, nearly 21 million people saw the movie. In reality, the movie had more cultural impact.

A video game, by itself, is not going to be enough for Universal to make a house.

But, they have the TV show coming to Netflix. The problem with that is no one knows how good or popular the show will be. Universal needs to start designing houses now, not after the numbers are in.

Basically, don’t expect Resident Evil.

And, to touch on Hill House, Universal has already bought the license. They already have a recognizable IP. They have no incentive to get rid of it when all the cost is spent and changing it requires more expense.

This makes sense. I originally meant to take the location of shrek that way netflix could have 2 shows featured at the event. Even if we don’t know how the show will be it could be like a sneak peak at the what they show could be like

 

[Legacy]

This makes sense. I originally meant to take the location of shrek that way netflix could have 2 shows featured at the event. Even if we don’t know how the show will be it could be like a sneak peak at the what they show could be like

Universal rarely does sneak peeks for things they don’t own.

 

[Tylerthecreator]

Is it possible we get gremlins instead of Billie? The first spec map had gremlins in place of Billie if I’m not mistaken. Who says they don’t have the layout already done for that

 

[Verdicoshna]

You’re right. It’s not nearly as popular. It’s nowhere close. And the only reason Universal was doing Billie was because of popularity.

“Video games” are still widely considered a lower-tier medium in respect to gauging cultural popularity. It falls well behind movies, TV shows, and music as determining something that “matters” to the zeitgeist. While fans often want to just compare popularity dollar to dollar, doing that ignores the much higher cost of entry to video games. The average video game price is 3-6x higher than the average movie ticket price.

Resident Evil 7 has sold just over 8 million copies worldwide. It’s Capcom’s 2nd-best selling single-release of a game of the best selling horror video game franchise.

Resident Evil: The Final Chapter, which had the best global release of the RE movies, made $314 globally. Based on an average $15 ticket price for the global market, nearly 21 million people saw the movie. In reality, the movie had more cultural impact.

A video game, by itself, is not going to be enough for Universal to make a house.

But, they have the TV show coming to Netflix. The problem with that is no one knows how good or popular the show will be. Universal needs to start designing houses now, not after the numbers are in.

Basically, don’t expect Resident Evil.

And, to touch on Hill House, Universal has already bought the license. They already have a recognizable IP. They have no incentive to get rid of it when all the cost is spent and changing it requires more expense.

Video games are not as popular as movies and shows, but a well done house can be a huge success no matter what the IP is. Scarecrow, American Werwolf, and Krampus are examples of lesser known Ip's or completely original concepts that are known to be great houses. As long as the team behind the house is passionate on creating something special the concept isn't always the biggest factor.

 

[JJ591]

Is it possible we get gremlins instead of Billie? The first spec map had gremlins in place of Billie if I’m not mistaken. Who says they don’t have the layout already done for that

I was kind of thinking the same. Gremlins or Creepshow. Replacing an IP with an IP. Only problem with those 2 is that it's kind of a "back to the 80s" deal having one of those alongside Beetlejuice - and we've kind of worn through the 80s deal the past couple of years.

Other potential ideas:
1 - Stranger Things season 4 seems obvious if it indeed releases in August. Problem is the Soundstages are already accounted for, and I don't see them sticking a big IP like ST into Shrek. I think ST4 only comes if one of the other designated Soundstage houses needed replacing (which according to @Legacy is unlikely).
2 - Silence of the Lambs. Was rumored to be a possibility a year ago. It's a 90s movie, so that breaks up the 80s stuff. And that movie is largely about claustrophobia, so having it in Shrek isn't too far-fetched. Problem is that it's a pretty big IP, and cost is going to be an issue this year for Uni.
3 - Recent, smaller IP like Terrifier or You're Next (or others). I've made my feelings known on Terrifier here - I think it would be an amazing house, and the sequel is coming out this year. Art the Clown merch I think would sell pretty well based on the fact that I wore my Art the Clown shirt to HHN Lite and had no less than 10 people stop me to ask me about it or comment on it. The settings (pizza parlor, apartment building) are naturally smaller in stature, so Shrek would work for it. I don't think Epic Pictures has any issues with Uni. You're Next would give us a slasher (with creepy masks) that takes place in a house - similar to Halloween 4, so we know that could fit in there. And it's a Lionsgate film, so Uni should be alright there I think. Either of those (or another smaller recent IP) would give us a more recent horror IP that isn't so big that it would cost a lot, but gives us some decade diversity.

 

[Living Dead Dude]

I was kind of thinking the same. Gremlins or Creepshow. Replacing an IP with an IP. Only problem with those 2 is that it's kind of a "back to the 80s" deal having one of those alongside Beetlejuice - and we've kind of worn through the 80s deal the past couple of years.

Other potential ideas:
1 - Stranger Things season 4 seems obvious if it indeed releases in August. Problem is the Soundstages are already accounted for, and I don't see them sticking a big IP like ST into Shrek. I think ST4 only comes if one of the other designated Soundstage houses needed replacing (which according to @Legacy is unlikely).
2 - Silence of the Lambs. Was rumored to be a possibility a year ago. It's a 90s movie, so that breaks up the 80s stuff. And that movie is largely about claustrophobia, so having it in Shrek isn't too far-fetched. Problem is that it's a pretty big IP, and cost is going to be an issue this year for Uni.
3 - Recent, smaller IP like Terrifier or You're Next (or others). I've made my feelings known on Terrifier here - I think it would be an amazing house, and the sequel is coming out this year. Art the Clown merch I think would sell pretty well based on the fact that I wore my Art the Clown shirt to HHN Lite and had no less than 10 people stop me to ask me about it or comment on it. The settings (pizza parlor, apartment building) are naturally smaller in stature, so Shrek would work for it. I don't think Epic Pictures has any issues with Uni. You're Next would give us a slasher (with creepy masks) that takes place in a house - similar to Halloween 4, so we know that could fit in there. And it's a Lionsgate film, so Uni should be alright there I think. Either of those (or another smaller recent IP) would give us a more recent horror IP that isn't so big that it would cost a lot, but gives us some decade diversity.

I haven’t watched SoTL in a while but I can’t remember anything that would be good house potential? Maybe a IP house that has more original parts (like poltergeist) or a house that’s more of a Hannibal Lecter slasher house then a house that’s solely SoTL?

 

[JJ591]

I haven’t watched SoTL in a while but I can’t remember anything that would be good house potential? Maybe a IP house that has more original parts (like poltergeist) or a house that’s more of a Hannibal Lecter slasher house then a house that’s solely SoTL?

Well, the whole ending when Clarice is being stalked in the dark would be akin to the Graveyard Games room that was pretty freaky. You'd have a girl in a pit with Buffalo Bill yelling at her. You'd have some scenes in the jail cell probably with Hannibal Lecter. And you would likely navigate the scene in the Tennessee courthouse when he escapes which was a brutal scene. I think it would work pretty well, but yeah if they wanted to just do a Hannibal Lecter house they'd have more material to pull from for sure.

 

[Legacy]

Video games are not as popular as movies and shows, but a well done house can be a huge success no matter what the IP is. Scarecrow, American Werwolf, and Krampus are examples of lesser known Ip's or completely original concepts that are known to be great houses. As long as the team behind the house is passionate on creating something special the concept isn't always the biggest factor.

That’s a completely different discussion. IPs used for the event are determined based on three sets of criteria.

1) Is the IP related, even tangentially, to the horror genre.
2) Is the IP popular.
3) Are the rights for the IP obtainable.

The quality of a potential house isn’t a part of the overall discussion. The purpose of the IPs isn’t to make good houses; their purpose is to get people through the gate. So, if we’re discussing potential IPs, dream-designing what it they could look like is a fun tangent but not the actual crux of the argument. Penny Dreadful, True Blood, and The Exorcist TV show would all make stellar houses, but they’re not relevant to bring up because (for various reasons) they don’t hit all those criteria.

 

[Allison]

3 - Recent, smaller IP like Terrifier or You're Next (or others). I've made my feelings known on Terrifier here - I think it would be an amazing house, and the sequel is coming out this year. Art the Clown merch I think would sell pretty well based on the fact that I wore my Art the Clown shirt to HHN Lite and had no less than 10 people stop me to ask me about it or comment on it. The settings (pizza parlor, apartment building) are naturally smaller in stature, so Shrek would work for it. I don't think Epic Pictures has any issues with Uni.

Only touching on the aspect of Terrifier—and I’m adding All Hallows’ Eve, where I believe the Art the clown character originated from, only because you mentioned the sequel so I figured it’s relevant to the topic—how exactly do you think Universal would be able to do a house with kills that include...

Spoiler: NSFL. I’m serious, it’s bad.

a woman being sawed in half from vagina to head, another woman having her breasts & limbs removed (and if my memory serves me right) c**t & b***h carved into her skin?

While I fully understand horror isn’t too kind to my gender, IMO, I feel like in general Terrifier could be one of those extremely violent/torture porn franchises that goes too far and with an audience reach that’s too low for Universal to seriously consider.

 

[JJ591]

Only touching on the aspect of Terrifier—and I’m adding All Hallows’ Eve, where I believe the Art the clown character originated from, only because you mentioned the sequel so I figured it’s relevant to the topic—how exactly do you think Universal would be able to do a house with kills that include...

Spoiler: NSFL. I’m serious, it’s bad.

a woman being sawed in half from vagina to head, another woman having her breasts & limbs removed (and if my memory serves me right) c**t & b***h carved into her skin?

While I fully understand horror isn’t too kind to my gender, IMO, I feel like in general Terrifier could be one of those extremely violent/torture porn franchises that goes too far and with an audience reach that’s too low for Universal to seriously consider.

I think you'd just avoid those scenes honestly. They did a Nightmare on Elm Street house and didn't show Tina being carved into pieces. YOU would be the stalked and Art the Clown would be showing up to get you. Maybe it starts in the pizza parlor and shows the head-o-lantern, then you move to the apartments where it's you vs Art the Clown.

 

[Living Dead Dude]

I think you'd just avoid those scenes honestly. They did a Nightmare on Elm Street house and didn't show Tina being carved into pieces. YOU would be the stalked and Art the Clown would be showing up to get you. Maybe it starts in the pizza parlor and shows the head-o-lantern, then you move to the apartments where it's you vs Art the Clown.

I think it's more of an issue of universal associating themselves with a film that has that kind of extremely graphic and arguably tasteless imagery. Even if the house itself does not feature those scenes it is still marketing the film which has those scenes.