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HHN Hollywood General Discussion - 2017

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Okay, so...

I don't have any inside info on this particular matter. Zero.

But I do not see how "Leatherface" could be a maze. I've read the script. There is almost no maze content whatsoever, and all of the villain characters are maskless children.

"Leatherface" himself does not show up until the VERY end of the movie.

(By the way, the script is bad.)
 
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Okay, so...

I don't have any inside info on this particular matter. Zero.

But I do not see how "Leatherface" could be a maze. I've read the script. There is almost no maze content whatsoever, and all of the villain characters are maskless children.

"Leatherface" himself does not show up until the VERY end of the movie.

(By the way, the script is bad.)
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Honestly, that's why I can't see it having any tie-in with "Leatherface" whatsoever; if that's what we are getting.
 
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Knotts will never be as good as HHN, be realistic.
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Apart from movie IP's and Terror Tram, there is nothing at HHN that Knott's has done equally if not better (specifically within the past 2 years). When you go to KSF with the HHN fanboy mentality you start looking for things to hate. You need to give them credit for what they're able to pull off against one of the biggest theme parks in the country.

With that said, I think new talent could make HHN Hollywood really stand out as an event. The potential is definitely there but with the budget and tent-maze restrictions, the event just falls into the shadow of HHN Orlando each year.
 
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And rideguy, why would you say that you don't know why people want the Conjuring when you admit you haven't seen the movie, that should answer your question
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I haven't seen it because frankly, it doesn't look all that interesting. Looks incredibly mediocre and generic to me. I'm surprised that it made that much at the box office, because aside from this forum, I don't ever hear anyone talking about that movie--good, bad, or indifferent.

That said, I'll give it a chance and try to see it one day. And if I change my view, I'll be happy to report it.
 
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k_peek_2000 said:
Apart from movie IP's and Terror Tram, there is nothing at HHN that Knott's has done equally if not better (specifically within the past 2 years). When you go to KSF with the HHN fanboy mentality you start looking for things to hate. You need to give them credit for what they're able to pull off against one of the biggest theme parks in the country.

With that said, I think new talent could make HHN Hollywood really stand out as an event. The potential is definitely there but the budget and tent-maze restrictions, the event just falls into the shadow of HHN Orlando each year.
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I'm not looking for things to hate, when universal brings back 70% of the lineup they did before, and they do it every year, and also when they decide to not have real queue lines, we can have this discussion.
 
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Look y'all, I'm a post-hiatus HHN veteran at this point, been going since '07. I've gone through all the motions you all have gone through. The hours upon hours of speculating and obsessing, hearing rumors of what's coming only for them to be false, things being replaced for something "worse," being super excited for one end of the line up, but hating the other.

And lemme tell you...

There's only thing that matters: the quality. Every maze at the park could be based on the Magic School Bus, but if the sets, the make-up, and the scares are great, that's all that will matter. Try not to get so wrapped up in what properties are coming, whether they're original or not, or if you even like the properties. Rest assured, you're still going to attend the event and you're still going to enjoy the event. If not, maybe this isn't for you.

Yes, we should critique and pick apart every maze because that's what we love to do -- but we shouldn't do that until we've SEEN the damn maze. I absolutely LOATHE Roanoke, but best believe I'm going to judge the maze only after I've gone in it. I don't think The Shining is a good property for HHN even though I love the movie, but again, best believe the only thing that will matter is if I go through it and have fun time. Even from a critical analysis point, sometimes we just like things just because. By all means, The Exorcist is an awful maze. Same damn room over and over again, with long stretches of black walls. But somehow, that was one of the scariest mazes I've ever been through. I'm trying to imagine if I watched a video of it before going and been spoiled and how much I would've hated it before going, when the only true thing that matters is...

The content, live and in person, once the park has opened.

Go ahead and complain all you want know, but you're wasting your energy and emotions. You're still going to go, and spend your money, and give all of your night and time to this event. There are other Haunts to choose from, HHNH doesn't have to be the best one ever forever. It was the top theme park Haunt for a few years, and KSF and HHNO were for a few years too. But eventually, something else will come along and be the new top dog, and we'll be excited for that. But you can always come back and visit your ex-lover HHNH. It's more popular than ever, and no "stupid" choices is going to ruin the momentum it has at this point of being effortlessly successful. Should they pick better IPs? Maybe. But they ain't listening to you right now. Right now, they don't care. They're too busy trying to make the best event possible and almost everything is pretty set in motion until opening weekend. They're only going to listen to you, en masse, after the event is over in the surveys. And maybe they'll listen to you during the event and change a few things.

But as of now, you're gonna get what they're going to feed you. End of story!
 
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Sony's E3 was, in a sense; a rerun of last year, with the exception of more titles for next year. This year's Horror Nights, stems on that far too many of the IP's are already used.
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As someone who works in the gaming industry, I just want to point out that Sony has PSX so why would they waste all their surprises early in the year at E3 where they'll get jumbled up with every other announcement. Blizzard opted out of E3 completely this year because they do BlizzCon in November.

I think my point is at least Sony has an excuse. HHN, on the other hand... :cautious:
 
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Can't wait to see this in a maze!

An excerpt from IMDb
"Prequel about teenage Leatherface who escapes from a mental hospital with three other inmates, kidnaps a young nurse and takes her on a road trip from hell. Along the way, they are pursued by an equally deranged lawman out for revenge, one of these teens is destined for tragedy and horrors that will destroy his mind, molding him into the monster we now call Leatherface."
 
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ush.hacker said:
Can't wait to see this in a maze!

An excerpt from IMDb
"Prequel about teenage Leatherface who escapes from a mental hospital with three other inmates, kidnaps a young nurse and takes her on a road trip from hell. Along the way, they are pursued by an equally deranged lawman out for revenge, one of these teens is destined for tragedy and horrors that will destroy his mind, molding him into the monster we now call Leatherface."
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Oh man. This just reeks "Murdy maze". I'm sure Murdy's head is about to explode with all of the props he will get to reuse. Time to pull the asylum walls, black walls, trees, hospital tools, and Saw props from the storage!
 
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Go ahead and complain all you want know, but you're wasting your energy and emotions. You're still going to go, and spend your money, and give all of your night and time to this event.
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Gotta I disagree with this the first sentance. Discussing and even complaining is what a discussion board is all about. The entire reason most of us looked for, found and post here is to use our energy and emotions to talk with others about this event. Of course we will still go. Just because we come here and find fault doesn't mean we are wasting energy or emotions or won't go to the event. To you, your post is the "end of story" - to the rest of us this discussion will continue.
 
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I think one of the primary reasons we're not getting original mazes is because the creative team probably feels that with all the surrounding haunts and houses in California, let alone the country, doing IP based mazes on movies, shows, etc.. feels like a HHN staple and sets us apart from other haunted attractions. IMO one of the two things I look forward to when visiting haunted attractions is seeing a multitude/diversity of monsters, creatures, beasts, or whatever types of scare talent. As someone who's been to attractions throughout the country and visited haunts like Creepyworld, Netherworld, Bates Motel, Cutting Edge, Bennetts Curse, The Beast, and other theme park haunts, I'd like to hopefully see in the future HHN utilize more original characters in their attractions, whether it be an original house, or even scare zones.
 
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I think one of the primary reasons we're not getting original mazes is because the creative team probably feels that with all the surrounding haunts and houses in California, let alone the country, doing IP based mazes on movies, shows, etc.. feels like a HHN staple and sets us apart from other haunted attractions. IMO one of the two things I look forward to when visiting haunted attractions is seeing a multitude/diversity of monsters, creatures, beasts, or whatever types of scare talent. As someone who's been to attractions throughout the country and visited haunts like Creepyworld, Netherworld, Bates Motel, Cutting Edge, Bennetts Curse, The Beast, and other theme park haunts, I'd like to hopefully see in the future HHN utilize more original characters in their attractions, whether it be an original house, or even scare zones.
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Considering that Universal Orlando puts in a large effort to bring in original content to their Horror Nights, and that before Murdy took control; there was original mazes for quite a lot of the Hollywood version.

Osaka makes a good effort too to bring original content as-well, and that Singapore is the best example of having a Horror Nights that is filled with original content.

Hollywood is running out of IP's to use, and that it will lead to repetibility in many way's, more than one.
 
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No I heard that the Actual Replacement is gonna disappoint probably a lot of you but it makes sense it's...

LEATHERFACE

Yeah the Origin Story to Leatherface from TCM or the Prequel coming out this October will be Replacing The Conjuring and will be in the Waterworld Queue. Our Hollywood Exclusive along with Insidious.
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Do they do any originals or is everything a commercial?
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Theory: HHN Hollywood lineup is bad on purpose in order to push us all to go to HHN27
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Its looking like it will keep me away.
 
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Do they do any originals or is everything a commercial?


Its looking like it will keep me away.
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The scarezones will be completely original; but outside of that, it's pretty much that.
 
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I think one of the primary reasons we're not getting original mazes is because the creative team probably feels that with all the surrounding haunts and houses in California, let alone the country, doing IP based mazes on movies, shows, etc.. feels like a HHN staple and sets us apart from other haunted attractions. IMO one of the two things I look forward to when visiting haunted attractions is seeing a multitude/diversity of monsters, creatures, beasts, or whatever types of scare talent. As someone who's been to attractions throughout the country and visited haunts like Creepyworld, Netherworld, Bates Motel, Cutting Edge, Bennetts Curse, The Beast, and other theme park haunts, I'd like to hopefully see in the future HHN utilize more original characters in their attractions, whether it be an original house, or even scare zones.
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HHNs really shines with it's original houses, most of the time. Not to say that I haven't enjoyed some of the IPs, but I am tired of them overtaking the events.
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HHNs really shines with it's original houses, most of the time. Not to say that I haven't enjoyed some of the IPs, but I am tired of them overtaking the events.
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Then don't go
 
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Does everybody realize how much harder it is to put on an original maze? Not only harder but, having one is a huge gamble of money since the vast majority of people that come to HHN Hollywood come to get immersed in a horror movie IP that they love and would pay for. Yes, KSF holds the strong argument that you can put on seriously terrifying original properties that tell a good enough story for you to follow while walking through the maze (it brings in people year after year). HHN Orlando has always done more original IPs based on their icon and various random IPs because thats what they've been known for. Going back to the vast majority of people that come to HHN Hollywood to get immersed in a horror movie is the reason why they don't do as many originals and John has said that many times in his Twitter. Also, Chris more than John gets to decide which set pieces to use. Actually, I think Mike decides all of that even. - My opinion on the whole subject. Who cares that this year might suck (which it probably won't) We're judging it based on wording when we haven't even seen what they have planned under the actual tent. HHN always amazes.

With all of this talk of Original houses, what original themes would you like to see?
 
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I think one of the primary reasons we're not getting original mazes is because the creative team probably feels that with all the surrounding haunts and houses in California, let alone the country, doing IP based mazes on movies, shows, etc.. feels like a HHN staple and sets us apart from other haunted attractions. IMO one of the two things I look forward to when visiting haunted attractions is seeing a multitude/diversity of monsters, creatures, beasts, or whatever types of scare talent. As someone who's been to attractions throughout the country and visited haunts like Creepyworld, Netherworld, Bates Motel, Cutting Edge, Bennetts Curse, The Beast, and other theme park haunts, I'd like to hopefully see in the future HHN utilize more original characters in their attractions, whether it be an original house, or even scare zones.
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But HHN is the only one in the market to do a movie quality original maze. Thats why we really want one.
 
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Does everybody realize how much harder it is to put on an original maze? Not only harder but, having one is a huge gamble of money since the vast majority of people that come to HHN Hollywood come to get immersed in a horror movie IP that they love and would pay for. Yes, KSF holds the strong argument that you can put on seriously terrifying original properties that tell a good enough story for you to follow while walking through the maze (it brings in people year after year). HHN Orlando has always done more original IPs based on their icon and various random IPs because thats what they've been known for. Going back to the vast majority of people that come to HHN Hollywood to get immersed in a horror movie is the reason why they don't do as many originals and John has said that many times in his Twitter. Also, Chris more than John gets to decide which set pieces to use. Actually, I think Mike decides all of that even. - My opinion on the whole subject. Who cares that this year might suck (which it probably won't) We're judging it based on wording when we haven't even seen what they have planned under the actual tent. HHN always amazes.
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Here is the thing, Hollywood has only had four actual original mazes, and a reskin of the House of Horrors to Vampires.

Those being The Asylum, Vampyre, La Llorona, Boogeyman and Clownz (even though that has Slash for the bgm).

And that the only times they were doing original terror trams, it was 2006 with The Director (which didn't use any IP's) and 2016 (and that even though featured Eli Roth on creative side).

I don't count Alice and Black Sabbath, as they are Music-IP's.

My point being, is that Universal has had very few chances in the past

Freak said:
But HHN is the only one in the market to do a movie quality original maze. Thats why we really want one.
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Indeed, as there are far too many reasons to have original content at the event; as we can't just have intellectual properties overtake the event.
 
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Here is the thing, Hollywood has only had four actual original mazes, and a reskin of the House of Horrors to Vampires.

Those being The Asylum, Vampyre, La Llorona, Boogeyman and Clownz (even though that has Slash for the bgm).

And that the only times they were doing original terror trams, it was 2006 with The Director (which didn't use any IP's) and 2016 (and that even though featured Eli Roth on creative side).

I don't count Alice and Black Sabbath, as they are Music-IP's.

My point being, is that Universal has had very few chances in the past

Indeed, as there are far too many reasons to have original content at the event; as we can't just have intellectual properties overtake the event.
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*cracks knuckles*

1. Monsterquarium


2. Area 51

3. Clive Barker's Freaks maze

4. The Cryptkeeper's Screaming Room

5. The Undertaker - Counts as original

Just to name a few

You were saying?
 
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