Incredible Hulk Coaster Refurb

[Teebin]

Actually, I believe it is attached to the gray arm on the left of the disk and the green lift is merely holding up the cables to keep them out of the way. Great photos! Thanks!

 

[Jwhee]

 

[Scott W.]

I can't believe how quick this is happening. Obviously the track isn't being refurbished so it's going s lot quicker but still.

I'm assuming it's going to be pretty much identical layout wise now?

 

[Teebin]

^ I kinda disagree that a track refurb would have taken more time then rebuilding the entire ride from scratch. But hey.

 

[Scott W.]

^ I kinda disagree that a track refurb would have taken more time then rebuilding the entire ride from scratch. But hey.

It really comes down to how and where the track would be refurbished. If it was sent back to Ohio, they would have to be a lot more careful dismantling it, then you have the time to ship it plus the actual time to refurbish the track and I have no idea how long that could take. Construction of the new track could have begun well before a single piece was removed.

I'm no expert but that's just my 2 cents.

 

[LoganCoaster]

Guys I just realized how beautiful the cobra roll will be with a solid green track now I can't wait to see the new trains!

 

[fryoj]

It really comes down to how and where the track would be refurbished. If it was sent back to Ohio, they would have to be a lot more careful dismantling it, then you have the time to ship it plus the actual time to refurbish the track and I have no idea how long that could take. Construction of the new track could have begun well before a single piece was removed.

I'm no expert but that's just my 2 cents.

Seeing how they did things with cutting the track and supports from the footers, I'm not even sure that removing the track for a refurb was an option. If they had to cut the things free from the footers rather than unbolting them, there was not going back with the same pieces. It also explains why they didn't just try and sell the thing to another park. For whatever reason, there was no removing it without destroying it.

 

[Scott W.]

Seeing how they did things with cutting the track and supports from the footers, I'm not even sure that removing the track for a refurb was an option. If they had to cut the things free from the footers rather than unbolting them, there was not going back with the same pieces. It also explains why they didn't just try and sell the thing to another park. For whatever reason, there was no removing it without destroying it.

I think it could have gone either way. B&Ms have been moved before but the possible reasons for removing it how they did could either be that they didn't want a copy of their track going else where, it's still a pretty unique coaster with the launch or it was just faster to remove it like that. I doubt we'll ever know.

 

[ThreePack Shagur]

Selling Hulk was never an option. The launch system design is not owned by B&M or Universal, so it would be another legal hoop to jump through.

...Besides the fact that Hulk is deeply integrated with the elevation changes its environment. Pretty much what I'm trying to say is the customer's location would need to be an exact copy of the elevation at IOA. Most coasters that get resold are the Six Flags variety where they are traditional chain lift style and sit on flat terrain.

One last thing - Teebin - right on about Sapphire. EE is coming to the entire park (not just HP) for onsite guests, which means Hulk will start cycling about 5:30 AM.

 

[Scott W.]

Selling Hulk was never an option. The launch system design is not owned by B&M or Universal, so it would be another legal hoop to jump through.

...Besides the fact that Hulk is deeply integrated with the elevation changes its environment. Pretty much what I'm trying to say is the customer's location would need to be an exact copy of the elevation at IOA. Most coasters that get resold are the Six Flags variety where they are traditional chain lift style and sit on flat terrain.

One last thing - Teebin - right on about Sapphire. EE is coming to the entire park (not just HP) for onsite guests, which means Hulk will start cycling about 5:30 AM.

Who owns the launch then?

I don't think variations in the land elevation would really make a difference as extending the supports would be pretty easy. Most of Orlando is pretty flat anyway as it's mostly just swamp land so I assume there isn't a great difference in elevation in the Hulk.

 

[ThreePack Shagur]

Who owns the launch then?

I don't think variations in the land elevation would really make a difference as extending the supports would be pretty easy. Most of Orlando is pretty flat anyway as it's mostly just swamp land so I assume there isn't a great difference in elevation in the Hulk.

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MTS Systems owns the launch system. It's licensed to Universal.

Raise the supports and you have to recalculate the stress loads on each support. This was a coaster designed to only ever be in one place.

 

[Scott W.]

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MTS Systems owns the launch system. It's licensed to Universal.

Raise the supports and you have to recalculate the stress loads on each support. This was a coaster designed to only ever be in one place.

MTS systems is a fascinating company from the glance I had on wikipedia.

With the exception of the cobra roll having supports in the lagoon, I think the rest of the supports are on a pretty flat level.

I think you're right though, this ride would look odd in any other park.

 

[jarmor]

Honestly, who would want that dated launch system?

 

[Teebin]

My word. What are they up too?

 

[fryoj]

My word. What are they up too?

It's almost like they reached the conclusion we did a while ago. "How in the heck was this core drilling ever going to work?"

At this point it looks like they have given up on reusing the existing upper sections of the footers and are just going to take it back down to the base footer and repour the upper sections.

 

[Teebin]

It's almost like they reached the conclusion we did a while ago. "How in the heck was this core drilling ever going to work?"

At this point it looks like they have given up on reusing the existing upper sections of the footers and are just going to take it back down to the base footer and repour the upper sections.

Yeah, but repouring the upper sections just won't be strong enough despite the rebar I don't think. If they core down into the earth then they are going to end up in watery sand. Can concrete be poured into water? Would it cure properly?

 

[Mad Dog]

Hulk Smash!!!

 

[fryoj]

Yeah, but repouring the upper sections just won't be strong enough despite the rebar I don't think. If they core down into the earth then they are going to end up in watery sand. Can concrete be poured into water? Would it cure properly?

Unless they do things differently in Florida(which I know it is somewhat different, but not drastically different), they would have been poured originally with a large underground section with rebar sticking out of it first, then formed up to pour the upper section with the mounting bolts. It looks like they are just returning it back to that mid point. It's possible that they key the footer to make a more physical bond, but there is no way to tell from the picture.

 

[maxairmike]

This is most odd...given the humber of cores I've seen in about 3 pics it looked like they had already cored most of them on the platform.

 

[devinp267]

I think I'll wait till August to hit universal again. Let hulk run for a few months