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Spider-Man: No Way Home

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I am immediately sold on this film by the teaser. Not a lot of films do that for me; but this trailer hit all the buttons.

A bit of a wonderment though on a bit of the origin of what they're pulling--that being One More Day, the run released back in 2007. In the storyline, Peter Parker makes a deal not with Doctor Strange; but instead Mephisto, the demonic creature. However in this case, it appears to be Strange, and by accidental happenstances, he breaks concentration of the spell. The thing that makes me curious about all of this, is if there is more to it than what we are currently seeing. Especially considered, the inner Sanctorium and how it is completely covered inside with snow from the trailer. Also note for the sake of consistency, the image one protestor uses, of Peter Parker with devil horns.

Either Marvel Studios and Sony are collectively trolling Mephisto fans (Which I will laugh of), or there is something going on in the narrative.
 
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Yeah the OMD premise was immediate, I'm thinking we won't get Mephisto and it's just Strange's doing but I'm still cool with that in terms of the franchise's narrative. I'm excited, I hope we hear some Elfman here.
 
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Chris Galindo said:
Yeah the OMD premise was immediate, I'm thinking we won't get Mephisto and it's just Strange's doing but I'm still cool with that in terms of the franchise's narrative. I'm excited, I hope we hear some Elfman here.
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It does seem like Strange isn't being the mentor like character I know a lot of people were wondering; so I'm happy for the change of pace on this one.

But honestly--I'm kind of giddy to see what Giacchino can do if he tries to mix both Elfman, Horner, and Zimmer all at once.
 
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So Doc Ock was totally talking to Tobey's Peter at the end of the trailer, right? Also, the lawyer seemed to be Matt Murdock.
 
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Looks like a lot of fun, but I'm going to have a hard time buying Doctor Strange agreeing to do what he appears to do for Peter.
 
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Looks like a lot of fun, but I'm going to have a hard time buying Doctor Strange agreeing to do what he appears to do for Peter.
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Yeah, there's going to have to be really good reason for it. If he were being controlled in some way... maybe by a demon with bad intentions... *cough*mephisto*cough*
 
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belloq87 said:
Looks like a lot of fun, but I'm going to have a hard time buying Doctor Strange agreeing to do what he appears to do for Peter.
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I feel like this is trailer magic if you catch my drift.
 
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... or maybe it's just lazy writing and Peter really just screwed up the spell by talking during it. This is the same trilogy that made him give away the greatest technological gift Tony Stark could have given to someone. Mephisto doesn't have the ability to control minds.
 
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... or maybe it's just lazy writing and Peter really just screwed up the spell by talking during it. This is the same trilogy that made him give away the greatest technological gift Tony Stark could have given to someone. Mephisto doesn't have the ability to control minds.
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I'm not expecting Mephisto at all (hell, I gave up on expecting him halfway through WV), but it would make sense if Mephisto had a little help in controlling the mind and we know that Wanda is very determined right now to get her kids back and i'm assuming she'd have pretty much memorized the Darkhold and honed her craft.

Again, this is not what i'm expecting, just a possibility if they actually were to use Mephisto.
 
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Two thoughts.

One - This is, exactly, the premise behind Rick and Morty season 2, episode 1, where, because Rick, Morty & Summer can’t focus on making specific decisions, the timeline breaks.

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Two - Which comes first here?

Does the spell “fail” because there are multiple timelines as a result of Loki? Is the failed spell the “Threshold?” Is Marvel really going to run with multiple timelines and multiple universes as two different, simultaneous, concepts?
 
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Does the spell “fail” because there are multiple timelines as a result of Loki? Is the failed spell the “Threshold?” Is Marvel really going to run with multiple timelines and multiple universes as two different, simultaneous, concepts?
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On the latter...

Funny you mention this as I was thinking something similar - what if the spell actually stays the way it is and that's how the MCU retcons the current characters in the MCU while have Holland's Spider-Man be more "spider" centric, allowing for Venom crossovers, a proper MJ, a more mature Peter, etc.
 
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Nick said:
So Doc Ock was totally talking to Tobey's Peter at the end of the trailer, right? Also, the lawyer seemed to be Matt Murdock.
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This was my thoughts also! I’m like.... but which Peter!!!!!!

I think the last act of this film will be complete comic book bliss, god I cannot wait.
 
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I'm so confused by the chronological timeline....
Loki Before the Blip
Wandavision: 1 week after blip
Falcon and the winter soldier
Spiderman Far From Home
Spiderman No Way Home
(eternals and shang-chi fits where?)

Also Strange personality is different then his personality in the past films...its really confusing.
 
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You guys need a login to the Crterion channal. Disney is melting your brain with this stale MCU CGI fest. Looks bad.
 
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SailwiththeTide said:
You guys need a login to the Crterion channal. Disney is melting your brain with this stale MCU CGI fest. Looks bad.
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This is a great satire.

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Nick said:
So Doc Ock was totally talking to Tobey's Peter at the end of the trailer, right? Also, the lawyer seemed to be Matt Murdock.
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So do we think this dock ock was pulled from a specific time in his universe, because he did die in SM2 after sort of making up with peter or admitting he was wrong or something (havent seen it in a while)

or could something else be up?
 
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Apparently he is pulled from the moment of him falling with the rest of the building
 
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Toby def has to be on the freeway with him when Doc and Goblin come.
 
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Apparently he is pulled from the moment of him falling with the rest of the building
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That is interesting. Wonder how they will explain him being "evil" again unless its just as simple as "robot arms control his brain again"
 
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That is interesting. Wonder how they will explain him being "evil" again unless its just as simple as "robot arms control his brain again"
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If you were about to die, and were pulled into an alternate universe where you could live again, and some nerd in spandex was trying to send you back to your own universe at the point of your death, you might be a bit 'evil' towards said nerd.
 
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Spaulding said:
If you were about to die, and were pulled into an alternate universe where you could live again, and some nerd in spandex was trying to send you back to your own universe at the point of your death, you might be a bit 'evil' towards said nerd.
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I do hope there is a potential rebound somewhere for Molina's Otto, as it would be fun to see the character progression continue from where we left off of him in Spider-Man 2. Maybe have him turn against the Six at a pivotal point.
 
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