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Jerroddragon said:
My question I guess is, all businesses wanted money

Why do the Disney owned resorts see it as more profitable to not spend money, but the eastern parks do? Like why make amazing rides like this if you can make more profits making crappier rides?

I love them for doing it but no idea why Jurassic World in China is a million times better then the states since both parks you assumed would want to make the most amount of money they can....why do some companies invest but then the US parks don't are the US parks raking in Millions more a year from investing less?
I'm trying to understand why one place can spend what seems like a million times more and stay in business
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To add on to what @Jake S said, specifically for TDR, OLC’s only corporate asset (and only source of revenue) is the resort and its amenities, so they invest heavily in their product. The Walt Disney Company is spread across so many different sectors (video games, film, retail, theme parks/hotels around the world, and a cruise line) so their investments are spread out among those, as well.
 
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Jerroddragon said:
My question I guess is, all businesses wanted money

Why do the Disney owned resorts see it as more profitable to not spend money, but the eastern parks do? Like why make amazing rides like this if you can make more profits making crappier rides?

I love them for doing it but no idea why Jurassic World in China is a million times better then the states since both parks you assumed would want to make the most amount of money they can....why do some companies invest but then the US parks don't are the US parks raking in Millions more a year from investing less?
I'm trying to understand why one place can spend what seems like a million times more and stay in business
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Seems like the Disney owned parks are all too often, relied upon to carry the less profitable parts of the corporation. The parks make tons of money but too much gets siphoned of to those other divisions.
 
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Seems like the Disney owned parks are all too often, relied upon to carry the less profitable parts of the corporation. The parks make tons of money but too much gets siphoned of to those other divisions.
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Exactly. Basically, they rob Peter to invest in Paul, since Paul’s investment can be risky, while Peter is always making money.
 
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What about Mary? ...we don't talk about Mary. :eyes:
 
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What about Mary? ...we don't talk about Mary. :eyes:
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only because she's quite contrary. ;)
 
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Mad Dog said:
Seems like the Disney owned parks are all too often, relied upon to carry the less profitable parts of the corporation. The parks make tons of money but too much gets siphoned of to those other divisions.
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Thanks

I still don't get why a company would want to operate like that seems like you would cut the things costing you money or invest less in them

Would not mind the USA parks set up like the Eastern parks. They seem to have the best of all worlds
 
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Thanks

I still don't get why a company would want to operate like that seems like you would cut the things costing you money or invest less in them

Would not mind the USA parks set up like the Eastern parks. They seem to have the best of all worlds
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They like those sexy glamorous media investments. Great for profiles but suck for profits. Investors have been pumping money, and getting burnt, into films and studios since the beginning of the last century. But they never learn their lesson. Studios get bought, merged, sold, go bankrupt almost always, to stay afloat, but as they say, a sucker is born every minute, so they keep sucking up the investment dollars.... Though it's about Broadway, and not film, a great movie to watch is the original "Producers" with Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder. Broadway is kind of that same way......Now it's the ill conceived Streaming scam that's sucking up everyone's profits.
 
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Something to keep in mind is that investors are looking for future (increasing) profits — not stability. It would be like the Rams winning the Super Bowl and fans, rather than celebrating the achievement, were more interested in their lack of draft picks.

Wait, shoot, that happened.

Anyway, it’s not a good setup for consumers and to @Mad Dog ’s point, I’m not convinced it’s good for companies, either.
 
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Something to keep in mind is that investors are looking for future (increasing) profits — not stability. It would be like the Rams winning the Super Bowl and fans, rather than celebrating the achievement, were more interested in their lack of draft picks.

Wait, shoot, that happened.

Anyway, it’s not a good setup for consumers and to @Mad Dog ’s point, I’m not convinced it’s good for companies, either.
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Yeah. It's like going to a casino. History shows you're going to lose money overall, unless you get very lucky.
 
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I heard word that there’s going to be a new fireworks show which will debut the MCU characters on this park… does that mean Avengers Campus will be coming eventually?
 
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I heard word that there’s going to be a new fireworks show which will debut the MCU characters on this park… does that mean Avengers Campus will be coming eventually?
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Not necessarily. Marvel seemingly isn't all that popular in Japan outside of Spider-Man. This is likely testing the waters and seeing what the public response is. If the park ever gets anything Marvel, I'd guess it would be a stand-alone Spider-Man ride that's different from Web-Slingers.
 
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I have a feeling that I need to start saving up so that I can take a trip to Tokyo after seeing the Fantasy Springs additions. I don't relish the flight times and will need to visit more than just DL and TDS while there but the OLC is doing a fantastic job with those parks.
 
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Everything they've shown of Fantasy Springs so far looks extremely impressive. It will probably be the greatest expansion land in the history of theme parks, assuming the rides are even just solid. Has any other expansion anywhere ever netted a park four new rides (three fairly significant, one probably B-ticket-level)?
 
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Everything they've shown of Fantasy Springs so far looks extremely impressive. It will probably be the greatest expansion land in the history of theme parks, assuming the rides are even just solid. Has any other expansion anywhere ever netted a park four new rides (three fairly significant, one probably B-ticket-level)?
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That B ticket Tinker Bell ride gives me vibes of the departed Heimlich's Choo Choo train from DCA albeit on a bigger scale.
 
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Feels like an unnecessary added word to the name, but whatever. As long as the final product inside is unique to the park. I love the fancy Star Trek futuristic gardens vibe the exterior/plaza has.
 
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Feels like an unnecessary added word to the name, but whatever. As long as the final product inside is unique to the park. I love the fancy Star Trek futuristic gardens vibe the exterior/plaza has.
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My good sir, have you ever noticed that many of the stage shows at USJ have "THE REAL" appended to their titles? Unnecessary subtitles are practically a tradition for Japanese theme parks at this point.
 
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I know, but at least the renovation looks great!

And it's not just the stage shows, but attractions too (Biohazard: The Real)
 
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I want the mini Space Mountain dome!!!
 
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