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The rights expire in 2028.It has an end date. Think it was what, twenty years?
The rights expire in 2028.It has an end date. Think it was what, twenty years?
Putting out some feelers here, anyone hear anything about moving forward on EU with upper level UC employees? Seems like a way they'd go and also plug the leaks up.
Pretty sure some decisions have been made.Putting out some feelers here, anyone hear anything about moving forward on EU with upper level UC employees? Seems like a way they'd go and also plug the leaks up.
Universal has done a good job with their customer friendly decisions during the re opening. A big contrast from the arrogant people up the street that have made planning a visit to their entertainment depleted/threadbare resort very complicated.Pretty sure some decisions have been made.
Lots of positive buzz going around. Not specifically about EU, but how the resort has exceeded all expectations for recovery.
Universal has done a good job with their customer friendly decisions during the re opening. A big contrast from the arrogant people up the street that have made planning a visit to their entertainment depleted/threadbare resort very complicated.
Disney just had bad timing with their opening the same time Florida was hitting record numbers. The two things had nothing to do with one another, but the press and critics were making a false correlation.
EU is on in some form on a new timeline. Things are still happening, we'll just have to wait and see what that timeline looks like and what modifications are made to the initial plans, and of course with a delay what gets added to the roster for the existing parks to keep guests coming while EU is being built. Universal's structure and their agility to adapt has served them well and will continue to do so. Especially now things are starting to come together with a clearer picture for the future of the U.S. and the rollout of vaccines.
Pretty sure some decisions have been made.
Lots of positive buzz going around. Not specifically about EU, but how the resort has exceeded all expectations for recovery.
Taking a guess - Now is probably far better. But it’s an apples/oranges comparison. The “Universal fan” (people who go regularly) wasn’t as strong a factor then. They didn’t have the range of available hotels, nor the accessible variety of food at CityWalk (it was still mostly night clubs). Locals are likely attending with far greater regularity than they would have then. Basically, the resort is far better positioned for this situation than Universal was for 9/11 then.I'm curious as to how similar the post Universal Escape and 9/11 financials are to the post-pandemic financials.
Taking a guess - Now is probably far better. But it’s an apples/oranges comparison. The “Universal fan” (people who go regularly) wasn’t as strong a factor then. They didn’t have the range of available hotels, nor the accessible variety of food at CityWalk (it was still mostly night clubs). Locals are likely attending with far greater regularity than they would have then. Basically, the resort is far better positioned for this situation than Universal was for 9/11 then.
Having ownership that believes in the parks helps a lot. Vivendi did when they built Islands/CityWalk/Resorts, but soured on them after the Escape marketing fumble. Then 9/11 happened and they gave up.Taking a guess - Now is probably far better. But it’s an apples/oranges comparison. The “Universal fan” (people who go regularly) wasn’t as strong a factor then. They didn’t have the range of available hotels, nor the accessible variety of food at CityWalk (it was still mostly night clubs). Locals are likely attending with far greater regularity than they would have then. Basically, the resort is far better positioned for this situation than Universal was for 9/11 then.
Having ownership that believes in the parks helps a lot. Vivendi did when they built Islands/CityWalk/Resorts, but soured on them after the Escape marketing fumble. Then 9/11 happened and they gave up.
HHN always catered to locals. It wasn’t until the early 2010s that started focusing on travelers.Well, post-9/11 was when they started catering heavily to locals (at least, in regards to HHN).
But this is pleasantly surprising to know. 9/11 has always been this sort of legend to me...it's something so big that happened in my life that everyone has always talked about, yet I have no memory of and had no real conception of it as affecting my daily life. Not being able to remember it probably has a lot to do with having so much personal nostalgia for the aughts.
So they're fine then, I guess. But maybe not as fine for the level of company they are now.HHN always catered to locals. It wasn’t until the early 2010s that started focusing on travelers.
It’s easy to look at the parks now and forget that things were very different back then. The Escape rebrand did the resort no favors. Islands wasn’t received as well as it should have been (they held HHN at Islands simply to get people into Islands) Universal wasn’t a “go regularly park” for most locals; APs were far less common. Universal was tiered alongside SeaWorld rather than Disney. And all of that was before 9/11.
Really just night and day circumstances between now and then.
It's hard to say. It would have gone better then, but they wouldn't be where they are today if they did the marketing better then. The dark period allowed some things to happen that have allowed the resort to flourish. First, Blackstone bailed. And Vivendi sold Universal to GE who subsequently sold it to Comcast.How different could things have gone if they had gone with the "Universal Orlando Resort" name from the get go?
Islands wasn’t received as well as it should have been (they held HHN at Islands simply to get people into Islands)