Cars area coming to Magic Kingdom

[TheCodeMan95]

and my serene nap time on the wall in front of the Discovery Center, looking at the lagoon.....

I definitely miss the front lagoon area being quiet and serene lol

 

[UniversalRBLX]

I think the Velocicoaster comparisons make sense - but it'll definitely be a bit different considering MK is technically replacing 2 "attractions."

VC literally just took over abandoned backstage areas.

The MK Project will be adding somewhere between 6,000+ of hourly capacity, currently TSI/Liberty Belle are about ~1.7K hourly capacity (and barely using it's full potential) and operating short hours.

Current:
Tom Sawyers Island - ~600-800 an hour (opens at 11/12AM, operates to dusk)
Liberty Belle - 900 an hour (opens at 10/11, operates to dusk)

Rough Capacity Estimate:
Cars E-ticket Ride - 1,440 (Test Track's theoretical capacity)
Cars Flat Ride - 720 (Alien Swirling Saucers theoretical capacity -> I believe this will be a version of DisneySea's Aquatopia but w/ Cars)
Villains E-ticket Dark Ride - 1,800-2,000 (Average Modern Disney Dark Ride theoretical capacity)
Villains E-ticket Coaster - 2,000-2,200 (Cosmic Rewind/Everest's theoretical capacity)

I'm not defending the aesthetic choice to remove the waterfront from Liberty Square/Frontierland (I think it's a horrible choice), but not opposed to the removal of TSI and the rest of the Rivers of America.

 

[Mad Dog]

The MK Project will be adding somewhere between 6,000+ of hourly capacity, currently TSI/Liberty Belle are about ~1.7K hourly capacity (and barely using it's full potential) and operating short hours.

Current:
Tom Sawyers Island - ~600-800 an hour (opens at 11/12AM, operates to dusk)
Liberty Belle - 900 an hour (opens at 10/11, operates to dusk)

Rough Capacity Estimate:
Cars E-ticket Ride - 1,440 (Test Track's theoretical capacity)
Cars Flat Ride - 720 (Alien Swirling Saucers theoretical capacity -> I believe this will be a version of DisneySea's Aquatopia but w/ Cars)
Villains E-ticket Dark Ride - 1,800-2,000 (Average Modern Disney Dark Ride theoretical capacity)
Villains E-ticket Coaster - 2,000-2,200 (Cosmic Rewind/Everest's theoretical capacity)

I'm not defending the aesthetic choice to remove the waterfront from Liberty Square/Frontierland (I think it's a horrible choice), but not opposed to the removal of TSI and the rest of the Rivers of America.

Yes. Kind of reminds me of the huge capacity boost when Diagon/Gringotts/He replaced Jaws or Pandora replaced the Donalds family M&G (Lion King show moved to a new location and a better venue).

 

[lowbudget]

My family doesn't go to a theme park for the serene views, or relaxing atmosphere, we can do that at home. We come for entertainment opportunities and experiences offered nowhere else. ROA and the steam boat are fine, but they don't connect with younger consumers, or even me, a 36-M.

Nostalgia by definition, conjures emotions and memories of times past, if the kids aren't connecting with an area today, there will be no nostalgia to tap tomorrow. Times change and the Riverboat and ROA do nothing for the 3 youngest generations.

Take on top of that raw revenue streams, which I'm sure the bean counters are looking at, and its a no brainer. Acres of space which generate little to no revenue, vs a 20 year old IP which still sells vast quantities of merch and has new material coming online every couple years.

 

[jarmor]

When do we realize we are only a few of the 10 plus million that visits MK? Why do we say things like "well I don't like it so no one should like it"? We do we realize and understand that things, life is bigger than just US? I don't experience everything at parks but I appreciate them for having things FOR everyone and not just me.

 

[JunoSynth]

Why do we say things like "well I don't like it so no one should like it"?

Some people say those things/convey that on here? Lol

 

[MartyMcFly]

My family doesn't go to a theme park for the serene views, or relaxing atmosphere, we can do that at home. We come for entertainment opportunities and experiences offered nowhere else. ROA and the steam boat are fine, but they don't connect with younger consumers, or even me, a 36-M.

Nostalgia by definition, conjures emotions and memories of times past, if the kids aren't connecting with an area today, there will be no nostalgia to tap tomorrow. Times change and the Riverboat and ROA do nothing for the 3 youngest generations.

Take on top of that raw revenue streams, which I'm sure the bean counters are looking at, and its a no brainer. Acres of space which generate little to no revenue, vs a 20 year old IP which still sells vast quantities of merch and has new material coming online every couple years.

That's the problem, everyone is arguing nostlalgia is the reason for the sadness but I believe it's more than that, and I think those who aren't that bothered don't really understand or are not conscious of why they love disney, but more specifically the Magic Kingdom so much.

I didnt have a clue about half the IPs when I went to disney growing up, including Tom Sawyer. I'm not nostalgic for the specific IP and I dont think many people are. Heck some werent even movies/tv back then, Haunted Mansion and Pirates. The IP isnt the source of the nostalgia, it was the whole idea that this park could actually be a living and breathing place. The same intangible magic is not going to be there with Cars land 2.0. Something that kids dont know\arent familiar with is good, it sparks imagination, it lets them pretend to be more than kids who enjoy cartoon cars.

The point of Disney theme parks is they are greater than the sum of their parts. This feels like they're just adding more parts, whilst losing the strengths that meant the parts individually didnt matter that much. Disney has had old, tame, slow rides for decades and succeeded not because of that but despite that.


On top of it fundamentally changing the Magic Kingdom, I think what is angering a lot of people is surely there was another option in terms of space, surely there was one other route they could have gone down to preserve a mere sliver of Magic Kingdoms' fabric.

The new areas and land will be gorgeous, it will be done well, but it doesn't feel very Magic Kingdom. That's all we're saying.

 

[DodgsonHere]