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Future of Dragon Challenge?

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Also, the constant updates will show those whale IPs (I'm looking at you Tolkien estate) that they are willing to care of these lands. The profit is a huge help to the resort as a whole, but the quality of HP is what landed Nintendo.
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Yep. Good points.
 
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I think there comes a point where people begin to see things as overkill. I'm a massive Potter fan. My facebook profile picture is me in a Hufflepuff costume. But even I know that there comes a point where the audience resents the push.
I think either Forbidden Forest or the Ministry works, and if it's both, it's time to leave it alone at the very least till the third park, if not longer. I understand wanting to incorporate Fantastic Beasts and I think that's great in the next park but Harry Potter is pretty much perfect in the current set up.
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I agree. But we are just talking replacing one lightly themed Harry Potter item in DC with a much better themed attraction/mini land. Technically, that's just keeping the same amount of Harry Potter/Wizarding World area.
 
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I guess I just want the updates to be spread out, and they have been so far. I'm really curious what they want to do as far as experience.
I think many people really underestimated Potter the first time around. There were so many cries that Diagon Alley was never happening. It's really interesting to look back on it now. So who knows what will happen in the future.

I know that and I think this plus a Ministry of Magic would be the last you'd want to add or you'd risk overkill. Do the next set of Potter in the third park, it's already the staple for them.
 
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They are.There's been & will be plenty of non Potter additions. In reality there's only been three new attractions that are Potter, FJ, Gringotts, HE. The other two, DC & Hippogriff were just reskins. But Potter is the catalyst that spikes the attendance increases. It generates the money that makes all the other new stuff feasible.
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I think Nintendo and LotR have potential to be big money and attendance generators as well.
 
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I think Nintendo and LotR have potential to be big money and attendance generators as well.
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I think Nintendo could be as big of a draw as Potter.
 
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I think Nintendo and LotR have potential to be big money and attendance generators as well.
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Never said they wouldn't. My guess is Nintendo will do very well, but not in Potter's league. LOTR may never happen, and with Universal having so much on it's plate with Dreamworks, Potter & Nintendo, it might not even be feasible for the near future. so I won't speculate at this point in time.
 
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Potter is a piece of literature that will go down as a classic. It will be a legacy for generations simply because it was a phenomenon. It was more than a fad - the sales for the Cursed Child script proved that. It won't fade. I believe in Nintendo as a big power player and massive crowd pleaser but I don't know if it's on Potter level. Lord of the Rings is a different story but it's been up in the air for forever.
 
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I think Nintendo will be bigger than Potter. As much as we like Potter, there is a subsect of the populace who don't let their kids or themselves subject themselves to "witchcraft"and "dark" things. Nintendo is a safe IP and really non offensive to anyone.
 
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I think Nintendo could be as big of a draw as Potter.
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I'm not sure anything will ever be as big as the first Harry Potter.
 
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I think Nintendo will be bigger than Potter. As much as we like Potter, there is a subsect of the populace who don't let their kids or themselves subject themselves to "witchcraft"and "dark" things. Nintendo is a safe IP and really non offensive to anyone.
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Mario takes shrooms and murders turtles, he's as sick as they come ;)
 
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Mario takes shrooms and murders turtles, he's as sick as they come ;)
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So we should keep the ninja turtles eating mushroom pizzas away from him.
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I believe Nintendo and Potter are arguably the most "evergreen" franchises Uni has. Mario is one of the most iconic characters of all time, having some of the most beloved and revolutionary games ever under his belt. He's right up there with Mickey Mouse himself. Potter is one of the best-selling book franchises of all time, considered a classic by nearly all and has proven itself to be much more than a mere fad. There's a reason these two franchises are being chosen to get huge-scale lands that are going to stay for a long time if not forever, while things like F&F and Fallon are getting just rides. I'd also argue that Seuss and JP could be pretty "evergreen," but their existing lands need some serious work to feel higher quality and up-to-date.

And that "evergreen" quality is important, as that's actually an advantage Disney has. Almost all of their animated movies are timeless, Star Wars and Toy Story are huge series, and most of their original attractions work "forever" as well. While I'm not trying to dis Universal, a lot of their attractions do feel outdated. MIB and Mummy for example are great rides, but them being based off IPs that haven't been popular since the late 90s/early 2000s makes them products of their time that will, like it or not, eventually need to be replaced. That's why it's important for Universal to get more and more timeless properties like Nintendo, Harry Potter, and hopefully Lord of the Rings down the line.
 
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The same types of parents who fear "real witchcraft" from Potter also fear that Pokemon are demons and anime is a Japanese conspiracy. I don't see your point.
 
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quinnmac000 said:
I think Nintendo will be bigger than Potter. As much as we like Potter, there is a subsect of the populace who don't let their kids or themselves subject themselves to "witchcraft"and "dark" things. Nintendo is a safe IP and really non offensive to anyone.
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And to those people I say there's no good without darkness and evil.
 
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I think timing is equally as good for both Potter and Nintendo. The timing for Nintendo is right in that perfect nostalgia sweet spot and Potter was built at it's peak popularity.
 
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The same types of parents who fear "real witchcraft" from Potter also fear that Pokemon are demons and anime is a Japanese conspiracy. I don't see your point.
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Not all but some. But I know more who think Potter is the work of the devil yet fine with everything else as I work with quite a few.
 
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Personal experiences aside, I don't really believe that Potter is banned in any more houses than Nintendo. They both have massive staying power and both are incredible properties for Universal to have.
 
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Not all but some. But I know more who think Potter is the work of the devil yet fine with everything else as I work with quite a few.
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You actually know people that think these things? :stun:
 
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The Wizarding World will be finished when they can teach me to be a wizard and I can live in the land.
 
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The Wizarding World will be finished when they can teach me to be a wizard and I can live in the land.
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I would settle for being a potions master. Liquid luck, lotteries and Las Vegas. What a combination.
 
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