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Pandora: The World of Avatar Announcement, Construction, & Preview Discussion

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Nick C. said:
I don't think it will be a trainwreck in any way, but will it be the massive success that Disney wanted it to be? No. I feel like the boat ride will disappoint based on what I initially expected years ago, but I still have hope for Flight of Passage.

It should be good, but it's not going to change crowd patterns and guests perspective of DAK as much as Disney wants it to. Certainly won't make it a full day park. If anything, it'll just reverse people's day at DAK and start in the afternoon through night instead of morning to mid-afternoon.
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Basically my feelings also. Good jump in AK attendance for first curiosity year, then it'll settle back to your day/night scenario.
 
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I didn't realize the partnership with Guy Fieri extended to Animal Kingdom. :lol:
 
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I didn't realize the partnership with Guy Fieri extended to Animal Kingdom. :lol:
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I can't unsee that now
 
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Nick C. said:
I don't think it will be a trainwreck in any way, but will it be the massive success that Disney wanted it to be? No. I feel like the boat ride will disappoint based on what I initially expected years ago, but I still have hope for Flight of Passage.

It should be good, but it's not going to change crowd patterns and guests perspective of DAK as much as Disney wants it to. Certainly won't make it a full day park. If anything, it'll just reverse people's day at DAK and start in the afternoon through night instead of morning to mid-afternoon.
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Agreed. I do think it will improve the Magic Kingdom after dark experience considerably, though. AK might cannibalize some attendance from DHS, but the park still has F! And Star Wars, plus the new Pixar concerts to keep people there at night. Illuminations still packs 'em in, and WS is practically a Mecca for night-drinking, so that leaves Magic to steal guests from.

Unless the land has a perceived lack of success that causes them to pull the plug on upcoming projects, the guests should reap the benefits of an expansion that doesn't draw monstrous crowds, adds capacity, and spreads people more evenly among the four parks. Even if it doesn't meet expectations, Avatar should succeed where FLE failed.
 
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Incrediable how we know so little about the land. Don't know if it's because of the lack of cool stuff or if they are purposely doing this to surprise everyone.

You guys speak as if Disney doesn't have strategic planning professionals, marketers, etc. Do you really think you're the only one who has thought Pandora would take away people from Hollywood Studios? Disney knows the studios is a mess. If anything there will be a rise in people with park hopper.
 
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Miketheboss said:
Incrediable how we know so little about the land. Don't know if it's because of the lack of cool stuff or if they are purposely doing this to surprise everyone.
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I would imagine that Disney wants everyone to be blown away and are keeping the goods under wrap. That has two potential outcomes. Everyone is blown away or arrive and think, "This is it?" However, building anticipation is a tried and true theme park new ride methodology (although I prefer POV's and all-out descriptions).
 
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Nick C. said:
It should be good, but it's not going to change crowd patterns and guests perspective of DAK as much as Disney wants it to. Certainly won't make it a full day park. If anything, it'll just reverse people's day at DAK and start in the afternoon through night instead of morning to mid-afternoon.
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I agree I think most average guests will walk in and have a somewhat positive experience, but it's not going to cause anyone to change any plans or anything. That to me makes this a train wreck, when you consider the large investment put into it and what will likely be little to no real return on that.

One interesting thing I hadn't thought of is if a large number of people do indeed reverse their half day at the park, it's been mentioned before that attendance numbers when it comes to park hopping are recorded as first click of the day. If that's the case DAK could see a dramatic decline in reported attendance.
 
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Miketheboss said:
You guys speak as if Disney doesn't have strategic planning professionals, marketers, etc. Do you really think you're the only one who has thought Pandora would take away people from Hollywood Studios? Disney knows the studios is a mess. If anything there will be a rise in people with park hopper.
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Not arguing your point, just saying that doesn't mean they have a good plan though.

There are people who thought the Zune was a great idea so :lol:
 
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The thing is about that food to me is that it looks great, but nothing about it screams "Pandora". Hell, I don't even know what food on Pandora would look like because they barely ate anything in the movie.
 
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There are people who thought the Zune was a great idea so :lol:
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Hmmmm the Zune is a great analogy to Pandora....
 
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Hmmmm the Zune is a great analogy to Pandora....
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Which Pandora? ;)
 
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Nick C. said:
The thing is about that food to me is that it looks great, but nothing about it screams "Pandora". Hell, I don't even know what food on Pandora would look like because they barely ate anything in the movie.
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Think...what would a giant Smurf eat? I think they nailed it.
 
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Think...what would a giant Smurf eat? I think they nailed it.
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Little Smurfs? :)
 
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What do you mean it is still for sale ;)
Amazon product ASIN B001EQ0HAW
 
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epcyclopedia said:
My problem with promotional videos like that is that it is from an angle a guest will never be able to see the area.

Ok, so they do sweeping overhead views for lots of areas, what's the problem?

Well, this one in no way uses context to show it's an elevated view. In something like a promo for Everest or Mine Train you see people on the ground to give context. You don't know where the ground is in this image unless you know the context from recognizing the rockwork portions being showcased.

To an extent I understand why - we talked before about how the promos with people were shot awkwardly upward to avoid the lack of finishing on the paths. And at the ground level they are still putting everything together.

But this one particularly troubles me because it's not ground level, extremely selective in framing, and throws the real scale of what's being seen totally off.

It might as well be an iPhone camera going through the original model.
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I really don't have an issue with these views. Sure, guests won't ever be able to see it in the park but it sells the illusion that it's a living breathing place beyond only what you can see.
 
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Little Smurfs? :)
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Smurfette, if they had any taste.
 
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Smurfette, if they had any taste.
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I was going to say that, but I chickened out. :lol:
 
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The inside of the cheesecake thing is purple/lavender.
 
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The inside of the cheesecake thing is purple/lavender.
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and how did it taste?
 
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