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Discussion in 'Disney's Animal Kingdom' started by Joe, May 24, 2017.

  1. JungleSkip

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    That’s fine. I can see why people don’t like it a lot. I do!

    EDIT: I also can see why people enjoy FoP. I think it's dull, but I get why people like it. (I don't get people who cried because of it...but that's another story)
     
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    I did Kong for the first time this year and enjoyed it and will do it every time I go, but FOP I could do repeatedly if the queue wasn't as ridiculous as it is, it is just one of those attractions that ticks the boxes for me (and it isn't to do with being young cos I most certainly am not :P )
     
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    well that escalated quickly
    as the resident Pro Pandora guy ill say this
    both rides are totally different with different emotional experiences, both with great queues
    and i personally could care less who likes which ride better
    both have proven to be successful
     
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    Yeah, good luck getting on it twice with that horrible capacity.
     
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    Yes, that's what I figured. :lol: Probably won't get to this for a few years. As I've said before, I don't do lines more than 30 or 40 minutes, for anything.
     
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    I liked both Kong and FoP for what they were. Neither blew my mind- FoP was certainly great and well done.

    Still can’t touch ToT or SM. Or for a “simulator”- Spider-Man still blows them both out of the water.

    Anyone who compares it to Simpson’s or BTTF is being about as biased as they can be. I’d take their opinion with a massive grain of salt. It’s as close to Simpson’s as minions, star tours and jimmy Fallon is. They’re all screens. But they are all completely different outside of being a screen- FoP being the vastly superior screen and ride mechanics to all of those (of course it should be considering its budget and being brand new)
     
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    Literally the first thing I thought when I was on the ride and turned my head and saw rows and rows of bikes in front of an IMAX dome was, "Oh, so it's BTTF."
     
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    I mean, Avatar is definitely leaps above them - but it’s not a crazy comparison since it’s the same gimmick.
     
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    just go before park opening
    they typically allow people to enter into Pandora early
     
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    Apparently they are only operating two of the four theaters right now (down for refurb already), so lines have been artificially long for this slower time of year.
     
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    The lines come from not hitting capacity and some wonky things with the queue. This is very similar to when Gringotts was running 4-7 hour lines in 2014.
     
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    And how exactly is Minions a different gimmick?

    Or even Fallon or Star Tours? (Outside of having their own screen)

    That’s my point. They’re simulators. It’s the equivalent of saying that Simpson’s minions Fallon and star tours are the same as well.
    Similar? Ok. Yet my wife hates riding the Simpsons and loved Fallon and enjoyed FoP.

    Oh ya- I forgot Soarin.- throw that in the mix too.

    It’d be the equivalent of saying Splash Mountain is similar to Dudley. Or that Popeye is similar to Kali. True, right? Except we all know which is better in every way. So In that vein- FoP is SM/Popeye and Dudley/Kali is BTTF/Simpsons.

    Being described as “The Simpsons Ride with Bikes“ is ignorant and/or extremely biased/fanboish.
     
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    I've yet to ride Avatar, so I'm asking out of curiosity. Other than the quality of the film and the RV, how is it different than the Simpsons? From the outside, it looks like both you are on RV's that move you up down and around in front of a domed screen. I know that's simplifying it, so what really is different about the two?
     
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    You pretty much nailed it. I'd say Soarin' is certainly more apropos as a comparison vs Simpsons as there is wind, mist, etc.

    The "mist" from the ocean is perfect (not droplets like we get in Kong, Spiderman, etc). The wind is perfect. The "breathing" of the Banshee certainly adds to it a little. The quality is top notch and the screen is massive- you truly don't notice the edges unless you turn your head and are looking for them- even if you're located in a "corner". Unlike Soarin- where there are edges all over the place.
    Honestly, I think the RV is what sets it apart- and namely how you are seated. The "leaning into it" certainly makes the ride vs leaning back in a seat with feet above you (soarin) or people/ride vehicle in front of you (like in Simpsons, ST, Fallon or minions). All you see is the screen, which is unique.

    It isn't a Splash Mountain/ToT "defining" ride IMO- but what it has done is perfected the simulator ride. I don't see how they could have made it any better w/ the given IP (the main problem)- which is a pretty big departure from other rides they've sludged out this past decade+. Always left me wanting more than what they gave me. This doesn't have that feeling.
     
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    Not all simulators are the same - which it looks like you get - but it doesn't mean ride quality is the same by comparing the ride systems - which it looks like you also get? :what:

    I don't get the pushback....... or the "Fanboy" accusation.......

    Avatar - a row of "link chambers"/banshees across multiple floors emerge from the loading room in front of an IMAX screen.

    BTTF/Simpsons - a row of DeLoreans/Coaster cars across multiple floors rise from the loading room in front of an IMAX screen.
     
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    Because it's being dismissive of a significantly improved ride, technology and execution- in literally every form and fashion sans IP.

    Splash Mountain- A flume ride in a log across multiple floors and emerge at a final splashdown

    Dudley Do Right- A flume ride in a log across multiple floors and emerge at a final splashdown

    We could say the same for Kali and Popeye.
    Splash Mountain isn't "Dudley Do-Right with a Rabbit, Fox and Bear" and Popeye isn't "Kali with Bluto" much like FoP isn't "The Simpsons Ride with Bikes".

    To say so is being disingenuous. For a forum where many argue that transformers isn't "spider-man with robots"- I just find that statement, and those who agree with it, ironic.
     
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    But Transformers is Spider-Man with Robots though.... :lol:

    In the most basic form, yes - those descriptions are apt. In no way does it imply any sense of quality, or lack there of. It gives an idea as to what the ride basically is.

    I think you're picking apart the semantics on the comparison a bit too much. Like I stated, it's not too crazy for someone to see similarities of the ride system, which in no way diminishes the quality of FoP.
     
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    Someone has said that Transformers isn't a Spider-Man reskin?
     
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    Sorta. The capacity is high outside of issues, so it has moments when it all works and moves people. It's not typically running with entire theaters down.

    An the park is in the mid-30's up from the 20's, so that's a pretty big jump. Not sure if that jump is enduring, but for a while, AK "busy" due to Pandora and Epcot "on a normal to slow day" were about the same park crowds. DHS meanwhile dipped into the red (less than 10k - major theme parks are designed to see 10k guests a day on avg to stay in the black in terms of staffing an such)
     
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