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Sony/Marvel Spider-Man Deal

Discussion in 'Games, Movies & Sports' started by quinnmac000, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. Ryan

    Ryan Staff Member Moderator

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    This is hilariously BS.

    I honestly think this is all spectacle and they'll come to terms soon. Remember that James Gunn was "fired" and never came back. I don't think the onus is entirely on Disney or Sony (because I definitely see some taking some unsurprising sides), they both need to kiss and make up.
     
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  2. allaboutthatchase

    allaboutthatchase Newcomer

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    That’s pretty easy. All Disney has to do is continue with their current arrangement. They were in a mutually beneficial relationship, which Sony was happy to extend, until Disney got incredibly greedy. Their offer was insulting, and I would’ve walked away too. They’re basically a monopoly at this point and were already making BILLIONS off of Spidey. But that’s not enough, apparently. Smdh.
     
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  3. quinnmac000

    quinnmac000 Veteran Member

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    Its slowly start to go from screw Sony to screw Disney....the tides are changing. This marks the fourth controversy so far to blow up in the Dis community with the Mulan Boycott, Social Media, Alleged Fraud and now this.
     
  4. Nick

    Nick Staff Member Moderator

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    Those “controversies” are all so inconsequential, with the exception of *maybe* the fraud allegations. And I’d bet $100 Mulan ends up making $1B, so they aren’t worried there.

    This shouldn’t have happened though and Disney/Sony should both be working to fix it as it looks bad on both of them imo.

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    2019, everybody!
     
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    Not to get political, but it seems a lot of the scandals are just ginned up by people who are upset at some of the decisions (casting / etc) which Disney has made.
     
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  8. Nick

    Nick Staff Member Moderator

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    I’m sure there was a joke there about how bad the dark tower was, but it wasn’t that good of a joke if that was the case.
     
  9. Joe

    Joe aka TestTrack321 Staff Member Moderator

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    What, Sony’s not supposed to just grin and bear it so Disney fans can have their tribalist wet dreams?

    Lots of the same people who claim Disney shouldn’t pay a living wage, park additions are hard and expensive, prices just have to go up, Disney’s a business, and other excuses bend over backwards to have other companies treat Disney with kid gloves and not work in their best interests. Sony should just bend over and take it from Disney for anything Spider-Man and Universal should just sign over the theme park rights pronto. It’s total tribalist BS and I’m sick and tired of it from usually smart people.

    It’s a good joke nick. :lol:
     
  10. Nick

    Nick Staff Member Moderator

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    I guess I just don’t find it funny then. Although that could be because I have no connection to The Dark Tower, nor did I see it. I just know everyone said it was bad :lol:
     
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    Joe aka TestTrack321 Staff Member Moderator

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    Sean has a very specific type of humor that’s hard to express online. ;)
     
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  13. HereWeGo

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    I’m not here to defend Disney. Only to defend the definition of monopoly, which you are using incorrectly. Disney is not a monopoly. People seem to think every extremely successful company is a monopoly. A lot of power and influence doesn’t mean you control the supply chain (which is what a monopoly would be).
    Does Disney do some shady sh*t? Yes absolutely. Is Disney a monopoly? No.
     
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    Just the phrasing that most reports have used lead to the obvious conclusion that Disney leaked their side of the story first to bring massive public pressure onto Sony; they even phrased it as if Sony cut off discussions without considering Disney's offer...

    Now Sony is countering by releasing details that they did actually come back with counteroffers to Disney's original 50/50 offer.
    There may still be a deal to be had here, but Sony is in a position where they can basically tell Disney to just continue on the original contract terms (Spiderman stays in MCU, Spiderman is not a part of Sony's Marvel movies, Disney gets same cut they always have) or the deal is over.

    I don't see the incentive for Sony to give Disney a more favorable contract than the previous one.
     
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  15. Nick

    Nick Staff Member Moderator

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    Yeah, I think we're seeing a very public negotiation. I don't think it's over yet, but I think they're both calling each others bluff and hoping the other will blink.
     
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    It’s certainly a Market Leader and getting closer to a near-monopoly every day lol. The acquisitions of Lucas, Marvel, and Fox is kinda scary tbh. People are exaggerating when they say “monopoly”, obviously, but the sheer volume of media they own/sell/make a crap ton of money off of is disconcerting.

    Disney, Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. None are true monopolies, but calling them something close isn’t too much of a stretch imo
     
  17. MrBlonde

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    I'm sure they've been working on this for months now. Sony it seems to be the one taking it to the press with the info of Disney wanting half (aka the Thanos special) whereas they only got 5% before.

    Disney also made a point of not mentioning Spider-Man at the big Phase 4 presentation, which turns out to be a sign of what was to come.
     
  18. HereWeGo

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    They aren’t controlling the means of distribution that effects other production companies. That's when it would be a monopoly.

    Would I have preferred Fox to stay as its own studio? Of course. But too many people are confusing this for something it's not.
     
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    The thing is Fox was gonna sell no matter what, too. If it didn't go to Disney, it was going to Comcast. So it was never staying the same.
     
  20. HereWeGo

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    Yup! That's the other thing people seem to forget. Fox wasn't some small, independent studio that was forced into being sold. They WANTED someone to buy them. It is what it is.
     
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