Apparently the structure plans are coming soon, not yet filed.
Unless someone has crossed wires...
Unless someone has crossed wires...
Apparently the structure plans are coming soon, not yet filed.
Unless someone has crossed wires...
Yeah, this is to be a giant slab of temporary asphalt... I would think this is what you heard about... perhaps it is parking for workers to build a parking garage in the future?
Assuming they know very generally where things will be built, then I suppose... but there is talk of yet more land, 300-400 more acres, down there that might be bartered for... so it may be too soon. I dunno.
Makes sense with the Thomas mediation scheduled for November.Assuming they know very generally where things will be built, then I suppose... but there is talk of yet more land, 300-400 more acres, down there that might be bartered for... so it may be too soon. I dunno.
I get what you are saying, but I have to believe they have a good idea for some hotels and where a City Walk would be...I just keep think OCCC is right there and that could be an audience you could accommodate in less time than it takes to build a gate...
The master plan will probably be adaptable to future expansion. What I mean by that is, nobody should view the 475 acres or theme park #4 as the "end game" for the 2nd resort. This is just the beginning as long as everything hits targets and the market continues to show growth. Land availability and growth permitting, there's no reason why this can't be the start of a full 2nd resort with up to 3 parks (2 dry, 1 water) + 2nd CityWalk + 15,000 hotel rooms. It all comes down to how things come together.I get what you are saying, but I have to believe they have a good idea for some hotels and where a City Walk would be...I just keep think OCCC is right there and that could be an audience you could accommodate in less time than it takes to build a gate....but I really do not know.
oh, and being sent surveys (that I can't/won't talk about....it is funny to me to here what some folks say about surveys...but w/ these things, I am just amazed at how well they try to get to know me before the decide which direction to send me in these things...they are really trying to understand segments.
This would allow them to make money on the property ASAP. Between I-Drive and the Convention Center, there’s enough interest for a hotel rooms. A hotel (or multiple ones) could be a build-out like Cabana Bay, opening in phases with a lobby and a few hundred rooms at the onset. When you open the park, you could add-on or hold off on adding more, accordingly.
If this land could hold a new park, new CityWalk, multiple hotels, etc... I don’t expect them all to open at the same time. That might be stretching yourself too thin. This land will have e active construction on it for a decade to come, unless there’s another economic slowdown or something. In the short-term, they might as well open hotels that can start making up ROI for the property as a whole. Otherwise... it’s just sitting costing money in taxes without generating revenue.
Just a couple of thoughts. 1) with the continual loss of cable subscribers, Comcast might be looking at an even larger footprint in the theme park marketplace...2) Comcast might be convinced Sea World Orlando won't survive much longer. That's 4 million or so attendance clicks to grab.
The master plan will probably be adaptable to future expansion. What I mean by that is, nobody should view the 475 acres or theme park #4 as the "end game" for the 2nd resort. This is just the beginning as long as everything hits targets and the market continues to show growth. Land availability and growth permitting, there's no reason why this can't be the start of a full 2nd resort with up to 3 parks (2 dry, 1 water) + 2nd CityWalk + 15,000 hotel rooms. It all comes down to how things come together.
That's why even the first part (theme park #4, 2nd City Walk, 2-3 hotels) will be built with future expansion in mind. There will be expansion plots and whatnot all left open around the property to connect to future land purchases.
Most likely though, those 2 parcels of 15-20 acres each off Universal Blvd. and next to the Lockheed property will be built as hotels first even before the next park is finished. I could see those being completed a year or two before the next park is opened.
I would argue that outside of the Stan Thomas land there will be no available land to purchase in the near future and leaving empty spaces to connect to would be quite dumb.
The 2nd resort is likely to be developed over a multi-decade term, and the land situation is a bit different from the situation of the main resort which is more enclosed. There's other parcels (for example the one directly north of the new land) which are undeveloped, though I don't know who owns that one.Not all of the 475 acres they already acquired is necessarily usable, and there really isn't that much surrounding land for them to buy that they can build on. The only possibility is the land still owned by Stan Thomas and if they don't secure that in the next year they probably never will, because it would mean he is going to do something with it or has sold it to someone else. Even if they do get that land I think it's only 100-150 acres of it that they could practically build on after you exclude drainage ponds and road right of way. It would get them a contiguous 500 acre chuck to build parks on and a 60 acre section to the west for hotels. It would still require highly effective long term planning and use of space if they want to be able to fit 2 small them parks, 1 water park, a city walk and parking garages, and maybe 4-6 hotels(10k rooms?). It they are unsuccessful in purchasing land then we are probably looking at a max of 2 gates, and a couple less hotels. I would argue that outside of the Stan Thomas land there will be no available land to purchase in the near future and leaving empty spaces to connect to would be quite dumb.
Somewhat low in the next 10-15 years given that the Lockheed plant next to the Universal land is a major MFC (Missile and Fire Control) plant and received new contracts recently for new sets of a air strike missiles; that plant also works on the F-35's targeting system.What are the long term odds of the actual Lockheed land being purchasable? Is that their primary facility? My thought would be that once Uni develops all of their land, Lockheed could probably buy and build somewhere else for what they could sell that land for.
What makes you say that? If that's true, then I'll be as excited as a kid during Christmas morning.We might see initial rough plans for the gyrosphere soon.