Wizarding World - Diagon Alley Discussion (Opens 2014)

[TheLastAshen]

Do you think The Hogwarts Express will run on actual, classic train track rails?

 

[WolfmanJ]

Will the Hogwarts Express be like the monorail and have two engones or cocpits on each end. From looking at the photos, IDK how it would trun around to got back. Anyone know anything about this????

 

[Cliff]

Think guys, with London added we could have Jack the Rippers chillin and scarin during HHN. The overhead monorail look on the HE tracks are nice.

 

[Teebin]

Just innocently curious. :look: We know that there are quite a few Brits that frequent this website, and a few Australians. Is there anyone on here that logs onto this site that is, to their knowledge, the only person from their country who uses this site? We would love to hear from the foreign members that signed up just because of the Wizarding World.

 

[UniversalCityFL]

^This may be just me, but I can't figure out how that part where the trains pass is going to work.

You have full permission to slap me if this has already been discussed, but what about the possibility that this is NOT a "pass area"? I'm wondering if this is just an offline area where the other train(s) are stored when they are being inspected/repaired. In other words, only one train is in operation at any given time.

 

[natespf]

You have full permission to slap me if this has already been discussed, but what about the possibility that this is NOT a "pass area"? I'm wondering if this is just an offline area where the other train(s) are stored when they are being inspected/repaired. In other words, only one train is in operation at any given time.

:boxing:

Will the Hogwarts Express be like the monorail and have two engones or cocpits on each end. From looking at the photos, IDK how it would trun around to got back. Anyone know anything about this????

I believe the 'insiders' were able to confirm two trains would be able to be active at a time. I am pretty sure maintenance would be preformed next to one of the stations.

The way it has been described on this forum, is that each train would have one engine. So I guess one trip would be forwards and the other backwards.

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As for speculation on the train tracks. Two guesses I have are... more or less like regular mass transit lines, or kind of similar to a roller coaster (well less like a roller coaster but basically multiple sets of wheels that sandwich the track). I could keep guessing but I don't want to :rofl:

 

[Jordan]

You have full permission to slap me if this has already been discussed, but what about the possibility that this is NOT a "pass area"? I'm wondering if this is just an offline area where the other train(s) are stored when they are being inspected/repaired. In other words, only one train is in operation at any given time.

This is where the trains pass. The maintenance bay would be at the station.

 

[Disneyhead]

Both trains will have one false engine. As in it will look like a train engine, but there will be no motors in them. The system is a cable car system with 2 trains connected to a cable loop. The actual motor that pulls the cable is near Kings Cross station. Since both trains are connected to the same cable loop, they HAVE to move simultaneously. Meaning that they will start and stop moving at the exact same time.

 

[natespf]

Both trains will have one false engine. As in it will look like a train engine, but there will be no motors in them. The system is a cable car system with 2 trains connected to a cable loop. The actual motor that pulls the cable is near Kings Cross station. Since both trains are connected to the same cable loop, they HAVE to move simultaneously. Meaning that they will start and stop moving at the exact same time.

Ingenious!!! :idea2:

 

[Nico]

How does a cross over work if they are both running at the same time?

 

[natespf]

How does a cross over work if they are both running at the same time?

The cross-over would only work if they are both running at the same time. :rofl: In the middle there are two sets of track, one train goes on the east track and the other on the west track.

 

[UniversalCityFL]

Ingenious!!! :idea2:

Well, Disneyhead, that answers that! :thumbs:

It is ingenious, and will probably cut down on downtimes since there is not a propulsion system on the trains to break. The less moving parts, the better! And very "green", too!

One teeny downside with this system is it sounds like both stations are dependent upon each other being ready. For example, if there is, say, a guest with a disability that needs some extra time loading, or if someone throws up at one of the stations... the people at the opposite station are going to be twiddling their thumbs until it's resolved.

 

[Teebin]

Both trains will have one false engine. As in it will look like a train engine, but there will be no motors in them. The system is a cable car system with 2 trains connected to a cable loop. The actual motor that pulls the cable is near Kings Cross station. Since both trains are connected to the same cable loop, they HAVE to move simultaneously. Meaning that they will start and stop moving at the exact same time.

Now THAT's insider info... I had heard the general rumor of cable, but not that it was a dual running system. Love it.

On another note, I had a "nice" tour today. Oddly, much of what I saw, wasn't created by the company I was touring. I saw quite a few duplicated props, ad nauseam. I will let you guess why there were duplicates. A hint to one of the multiples happened to involve a sport.

US has been so well documented in pictures that I wasn't really amazed. The building is big, and the newer construction is bigger. Loved "disputable" me. (joking). Mummy screens were a vast improvement although I found the gold room projection a bit disappointing.

Also got a nice (but short) drag backstage with a someone. An acquaintance. This person doesn't know a thing about my association with this site. No pics but it was a friggin mess back there. Looked like pictures of Southern Lebanon.

 

[natespf]

Well, Disneyhead, that answers that! :thumbs:

It is ingenious, and will probably cut down on downtimes since there is not a propulsion system on the trains to break. The less moving parts, the better! And very "green", too!

One teeny downside with this system is it sounds like both stations are dependent upon each other being ready. For example, if there is, say, a guest with a disability that needs some extra time loading, or if someone throws up at one of the stations... the people at the opposite station are going to be twiddling their thumbs until it's resolved.

Ha, ha... like I said "The cross-over would only work if they are both running at the same time." As the layout of the track, it is not like one train could go if the other were held up. There would need to be two tracks for that. But this would help cut out user error and the two trains not leaving at the right time together, causing a possible collision. I know if they were using a different system they would have different safeties in place, but hay this is like 3 or 4 birds with one stone. Great shot Uni :thumbs: But I don't think you should kill so many innocent birds for no reason, going green and all :doh:

 

[novawildcat18]

So this must mean that the cross-over is directly half-way between the two stations, right?

 

[natespf]

So this must mean that the cross-over is directly half-way between the two stations, right?

The cross-over would encompass both trains being directly half-way between the two stations.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Both trains will have one false engine. As in it will look like a train engine, but there will be no motors in them. The system is a cable car system with 2 trains connected to a cable loop. The actual motor that pulls the cable is near Kings Cross station. Since both trains are connected to the same cable loop, they HAVE to move simultaneously. Meaning that they will start and stop moving at the exact same time.

Ha, ha... like I said "The cross-over would only work if they are both running at the same time." As the layout of the track, it is not like one train could go if the other were held up. There would need to be two tracks for that. But this would help cut out user error and the two trains not leaving at the right time together, causing a possible collision. I know if they were using a different system they would have different safeties in place, but hay this is like 3 or 4 birds with one stone. Great shot Uni :thumbs: But I don't think you should kill so many innocent birds for no reason, going green and all :doh:

To expand a bit on this, these systems tend to also not have active switches on the tracks. The switch is pushed in place by the train that is going from two tracks to a single track. This then enables the train to return to that same parallel track when headed back in the opposite direction.

 

[badlactose]

Both trains will have one false engine. As in it will look like a train engine, but there will be no motors in them. The system is a cable car system with 2 trains connected to a cable loop. The actual motor that pulls the cable is near Kings Cross station. Since both trains are connected to the same cable loop, they HAVE to move simultaneously. Meaning that they will start and stop moving at the exact same time.

Awesome. Sounds efficient and green.
You know, it just occurred to me that this ride is going to be very unique in one regard: it is a completely closed-in ride with simulated views out the window, but it will be travelling a long distance as it does so. The physical motion combined with the visuals will make for an incredibly realistic experience.

Most simulators are like Despicable Me and Star Tours, and use a relatively limited range of motion.

 

[Miketheboss]

I don't think it will be cable. And if their is "one fake engine" at one end, wouldnt it be "on the wrong end" when leaving the other station. How would it make sense. Think about it. Your leaving hogsmead and the "engine" is facing east, towards Uni. Then when u leave Uni you feel and see the engine to the left but it moves west (left), has if it was going backwards. Also, seeing the cable would not look right.

 

[natespf]

I don't think it will be cable. And if their is "one fake engine" at one end, wouldnt it be "on the wrong end" when leaving the other station. How would it make sense. Think about it. Your leaving hogsmead and the "engine" is facing east, towards Uni. Then when u leave Uni you feel and see the engine to the left but it moves west (left), has if it was going backwards. Also, seeing the cable would not look right.

Okay, if it were a cable system you would not actually see the cables. Also if there were "two fake engines" (one each in front in back) you would see the engine moving backwards at both stations.