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I think it is being done by the same team who did Sleep No More!
I think it is being done by the same team who did Sleep No More!
Wait. Woman in Black is on Broadway?!
My absolute favorite play. It just gives me chills every time. Enjoy it.Technically off-broadway at the McKittrick. Ported from the very well-received West End production but adjusted to be site-specific. Very, very excited.
I see it being a cult Classic but with spiderman this film is dead in the water. It will make 5ish million and only go down from their
The streaming rights are also for HBO and think it will do worst their then Disney Plus...but cant do anything about now.
It cost double of what in the Heights and 4 times that of dear Evan Hanson and both of those movies were not considered successful.
We are very lucky Wicked is starting filming because this film is a warning to making a bigger budget music that as Nick pointed out is not a Disney film.
I think if Studio's are smart they will go the Hamilton route and just film the state play and put it online
One thing I’d like to mention (box office results aside) is that nearly every live action musical this year was really good. The only one that was BAD was Dear Evan Hanson, which a lot had to do with that everyone seemed to have finally realized that Evan is a creep hiding behind catchy songs.I'm not so much agree with this sentiment. Didn't help with Apple+ with Come From Away. Hamilton is a show so many wanted to see on broadway but the tickets were near impossible to get which helped.
The 10 Highest-Grossing Movie Musicals Of All Time (According To Box Office Mojo)
Though musicals tend to be rather controversial in terms of audience approval, one cannot deny that these 10 musicals were instant classics.screenrant.com
The numbers for me tell me its way more about Star Power/likeability stars, the only movie musical that flopped with actual real star power as leads was Cats and relatively speaking The Prom underperformed but I have a feelings that more due to Cordon than anything else.
That's why I'm not worried to much about Wicked because Universal is going to go heavy on the star power for this one.
The fact that Cats sucks as a musical in general doesn’t help matters. Probably a controversial take, but I don’t care.Cats was over-produced into becoming a parody and the marketing couldn’t hide it. Casting was the least problematic aspect of it.
Into the Woods was over-produced as well, it just had a more popular cast and Sondheim backing it.
I like it, but it’s definitely experimental Webber instead of *good* Webber.The fact that Cats sucks as a musical in general doesn’t help matters. Probably a controversial take, but I don’t care.
Well Apple TV, I literally only Ted Lasso....I know they have other stuff but dont watch itI'm not so much agree with this sentiment. Didn't help with Apple+ with Come From Away. Hamilton is a show so many wanted to see on broadway but the tickets were near impossible to get which helped.
The 10 Highest-Grossing Movie Musicals Of All Time (According To Box Office Mojo)
Though musicals tend to be rather controversial in terms of audience approval, one cannot deny that these 10 musicals were instant classics.screenrant.com
The numbers for me tell me its way more about Star Power/likeability stars, the only movie musical that flopped with actual real star power as leads was Cats and relatively speaking The Prom underperformed but I have a feelings that more due to Cordon than anything else.
That's why I'm not worried to much about Wicked because Universal is going to go heavy on the star power for this one.
FOX used to do a live musical to (maybe they'll get back to it). They did the not-so-live RENT, Grease, Jesus Christ Superstar, etc. With those, once again, casting is a big thing, imo. Remember the first year NBC did it and they cast Carrie Underwood to be Maria in The Sound of Music? They wanted a big name star for the lead and it was cringe. They realized that the name of the show mostly sells itself, but people aren't going to stay and watch if the show is trash, so you need good, trained theater actors (and you also need an audience so not to make it awkward).Well Apple TV, I literally only Ted Lasso....I know they have other stuff but dont watch it
To me Apple is too young as a point of proof.
In general, Musicals seem to just work for broadway and not always so much as movies.
I know NBC does a yearly live Musical, so some places it works but in Theaters with a big budget, it seems like a risk for most.
I surprisingly found the songs in Tick Tick Boom to be rather catchy and Andrew Garfield’s performance was completely engaging. But yes, had it had a wide theatrical release, it likely would’ve flopped big time.The number of truly “commercial” musicals for general audiences are pretty small. Just because something is a huge success on Broadway (were something can succeed even with no names attached), that doesn’t mean it can effectively translate to film even with huge names. West Side Story, as a musical, hasn’t seen a ton of success onstage since its debut, and the movie is competing with its original version. Wicked, as a show, survives on the chemistry between Galinda and Elphaba. The songs are generally good, but most are niche-popular because they are VERY “theater” (Popular, As Long As You’re Mine). Defying Gravity is a uniquely iconic high-point. Then you have shows that are so theater, they can’t really be commercial at all (The Prom, Tick Tick Boom, Nine).
I wish Wicked was done by Disney.....mainly because then it would do much much betterI surprisingly found the songs in Tick Tick Boom to be rather catchy and Andrew Garfield’s performance was completely engaging. But yes, had it had a wide theatrical release, it likely would’ve flopped big time.
I know Wicked is a huge name and a huge show, but aside from the fan base, I still don’t even see that adaptation doing overly great. The key takeaway from musicals like Cats and West Side Story (which both had $100M production budgets) to take away going forward imo is to try and make sure the budget stays low. If we know Musicals don't sell initially and nothing is a sure fire hit (as musicals make their money over time, not in one lump sum), don't give them a budget higher than that of Ghostbusters: Afterlife ($75M) and closer to Ant Man and the Wasp than ($130M) to In The Heights ($50M) or Tick Tick Boom ($30M).
The brand is not big enough and the music isn't modern enough, no matter how much you love it Spielberg (even if it is a good film as Spielberg seems to have made). Audiences now want less and less of the Rodgers & Hammerstein, Sondheim, Webber, etc classics. If you want to attract general audiences to watch a musical adaptation, the way to do it is to make it feel less fake and showtime-y and more "real" and have the songs be more modern in style. Lin Manuel Miranda and Benj Pasek & Justin Paul have hit that on the head, both on Broadway and in multiple original movie musicals.
....otherwise, you need to accept that movie musicals without the Disney Brand attached open SUPER low. Even Les Mis only opened to $27.5M (although they really blew casting for that movie) and with as big as Les Mis is, I have to think that's around the ceiling for Wicked.
I'm not sure how a Disney Wicked movie would be or if the Disney name would really effect it too much (although it never can happen anyway since Universal actually owns the musical).I wish Wicked was done by Disney.....mainly because then it would do much much better
All i'll say is i'm that star power doesn't equal automatic success and it better not be what they rely on. The only sure fire casting i'd approve of is Lady Gaga given that we know she can act her face off now. I'm just not sure who i'd cast her as. Her voice is sooo recognizable though.That's why I'm not worried to much about Wicked because Universal is going to go heavy on the star power for this one.
Madame Morrible.Cleaned up the thread a bit and moved more general theater talk over to the proper thread.
All i'll say is i'm that star power doesn't equal automatic success and it better not be what they rely on. The only sure fire casting i'd approve of is Lady Gaga given that we know she can act her face off now. I'm just not sure who i'd cast her as. Her voice is sooo recognizable though.
Headed to New York tonight on a red eye. Given the state of Broadway at the moment, I'm hoping for the best and expecting the worst.
Fingers crossed for you!Headed to New York tonight on a red eye. Given the state of Broadway at the moment, I'm hoping for the best and expecting the worst.