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Transformers: The Ride - Summer 2013

  • Thread starter Thread starter Vyrus
  • Start date Start date Mar 11, 2011

Is it Transformers?

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Why why why? Deep corner foundations? It will be a rugged heavy building. And there will be a ton of horizontal stress. I need to call Tank and have him upload a structural engineering program right now.
 
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Well, BriMan's photo journey just got more interesting this weekend!:lol:
 
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Interesting. Can't wait to hear it for myself in person no matter whose voice it is, provided it is in fact Transformers. I know we're all pretty sure it is now, but until they announce I'm not getting my hopes up.


JungleSkip said:
It's not Shia. It's "EVAC" which is the TF we're riding in. His voice is a little too vanilla for the situation, but it's not terrible.

The no score situation is much more interesting, but I think it adds to the "battle scenario".
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JungleSkip said:
Well, BriMan's photo journey just got more interesting this weekend!:lol:
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We need to get him a jetpack.
 
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Any chance the heavy footings are to keep up with hurricane codes? Or is it something the ride demands?
 
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BamaToTheBone said:
Interesting. Can't wait to hear it for myself in person no matter whose voice it is, provided it is in fact Transformers. I know we're all pretty sure it is now, but until they announce I'm not getting my hopes up.
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I'll tell you one thing, if it's not TF, someone is getting a piece of my mind in the worst way.
 
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Shellemonster said:
So a question for all my fellow engineers or anyone really...

High end dark rides all use a similar style of track as seen above in Paul's picture. A quick FAQ first... In the center there is the buss bar which, contrary to many descriptions I've seen, only carries electricity and no data. It is isolated from the surroundings and contacts the vehicle through spring mounted brushes. The green/turquoise boxes are position sensors which register to the central computer/PLC cabinets which then checks and adjusts the vehicle motion timing through a wireless system. The vehicle motions are stored in the individual vehicle memory.
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There are 6 bus bars. Ground, 3 phase, a "Go" signal, and then another one which I assume is used to enable a master RV reset. In the TF pic, you the rail in the middle is just that: a guide rail. The buss bars are to the sides (3 on left, 3 on right.) The bus bars are physically isolated into "zones" (like, a roller coaster.) The ride system's primary way of tracking the vehicles is by detecting the draw between the 3 phase and ground bus bars. When it detects the draw, it knows that there is a vehicle in that particular zone. Spider-man, for example, has a line of proxy sensors mounted under each vehicle. These sensors hit trigger points along the track. Depending on the combination of which sensors are activated at the same time tells that particular vehicle what to do. The ride control system isn't actually talking to the vehicle, the vehicle is more or less "reading" physical checkpoints along the track. The vehicle is completely inpedendent. The only signal it's getting from control is the "go" signal that the one bus bar provides. This enables the vehicle to move. The green proxy sensors are connected to ride control. They are used mostly for show control during the ride portion, and areas where the vehicles will be parking like the station area and elevators.

If you look on Spider-man's main track layout, the system doesn't have any idea where car #12 is, it only knows which zones are occupied. Then the system knows which zones can get a "Go" signal. The only time ride control actually talks to the vehicle is in special curcumstances, such as RV resets.

The above information mostly applies to Spider-man, but the majority of it can apply to Forbidden Journey as well, even though the control system operates a bit different. FJ vehicles and ride control need to talk to each other when a vehicle is tagged for ADA load, for example. The system pretty much has to know which particular vehicle is where in order to know when to change the switch tracks and whatnot. My best guess is that there are RFID tags on the track under the black cover between the rail an the wheel running surface. Since the vehicle probably needs to know where it is a lot more often than a ride like Spider-man, a line of proxy sensors under each car would be impractical. We also know that this ride uses RFID tags for the restraints already, so I wouldn't be surprised to find it on the track also. It is also my best guess that there is an RFID tag under each vehicle that identifies it. At certain points along the track (like just before the switch approaching unload) there is likely an RFID reader that reads the car numbers. So if RV 17 is tagged for ADA, it knows to send it to ADA load.

Shellemonster said:
My questions are about traction and roll control in the case of Transformers and especially Forbidden journey since they use essentially the same motion base. How are the vehicles kept on the same path steering wise when they are throwing around massive weight at large accelerations? I see some sort of black "guides" for lack of a better word on each side of the track which I have never understood the purpose for. Unless the base is of such a greater mass than the vehicle itself there needs to be some way to account for the vehicle deflecting slightly from it's intended path. Either the "guides" serve this purpose in some form or function that I do not understand or there are sensors embedded in the concrete to constantly adjust steering if the vehicle rolls a slight amount which is unsafe and would never pass TUV inspection anyways.

Let me put it this way in vehicle dynamics terms, assuming these vehicles have no suspension, how are they restricted from overloading their static roll center or simply lifting one side of the vehicle during roll? What constraints exist?

Also, HPatFJ it is a bit different... but still rollover?
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Look at the central rail. You will see two wheels pinching it. There is also another set towards the front. These are the drive tires on the vehicle and they also dub as guide wheels. The 4 legs keep the vehicle from tipping over. Spidey's vehicles are so wide and low enough that they wont tip over.

Hope this helps!
 
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It sure will be nice. Just wish it would have been started about a year ago so I could enjoy it this January.

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I'll tell you one thing, if it's not TF, someone is getting a piece of my mind in the worst way.
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Wow, we got vertical already?! Before Potter 2.0 (which we knew) but wow, I thought it would still be a week or 2 before we got vertical, so I'm flabbergasted, this is amazing! :happy:
 
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BamaToTheBone said:
It sure will be nice. Just wish it would have been started about a year ago so I could enjoy it this January.
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I feel ya. Oh well, just an excuse to come back! :lol:

Vyrus said:
Wow, we got vertical already?! Before Potter 2.0 (which we knew) but wow, I thought it would still be a week or 2 before we got vertical, so I'm flabbergasted, this is amazing! :happy:
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Now, I'm not a construction guy (I mean I'm an engineer, but boats are more my speed), but I think these will be mostly in the ground for the foundation. So "vertical" might not be the right word.
 
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Won't have vertical until there's a slab, I would think.
 
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Something is sticking out the ground, thats vertical to me :lol:
 
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Like I need an excuse. LOL I come back every year anyways but this'll be a good way to get the wife not to complain about it.

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I feel ya. Oh well, just an excuse to come back! :lol:
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"Provide the maximum travel distance to the nearest exit for this occupancy in the ride areas for the 1st and 2nd floor ride areas"
 
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ReelJustice said:
"Provide the maximum travel distance to the nearest exit for this occupancy in the ride areas for the 1st and 2nd floor ride areas"
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Ah... fire exits?
 
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Ah... fire exits?
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Yep!
 
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ReelJustice said:
Yep!
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So if they theme it for New York I wonder if we will see emergency stairs outside the building?
 
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So if they theme it for New York I wonder if we will see emergency stairs outside the building?
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You will in some respect. The building in Hollywood has sets of stairs on both sides.
 
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ReelJustice said:
We need to get him a jetpack.
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Octobers Fade said:
So if they theme it for New York I wonder if we will see emergency stairs outside the building?
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That'd actually be really neat.
 
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So that's technically the first official confirmation that it's going to be a two story ride.
 
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