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Universal's Cinematic Celebration Night Show

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MrPipps said:
So you want completely new content and story... Yeah. That's just not realistic here. Not for Universal. And actually... Not really for any show with a reasonable budget.

You want them to celebrate the movies without showing the movies... Most people would probably differ from your opinion. For many, they have to see clips from the film to even know what the show was talking about or referring to. The general public barely know the films to begin with.

Original content is expensive. Original animation can be as expensive as $800k-$1mil per second. Live action isn't much cheaper these days with all of the post processing done to make films look "cinema-like." Making new media for shows like this wouldn't be any cheaper. You're still having the studio make assets that match the level of the films. By that measure, a typical show could be tens of millions in just media alone. Together with equipment and construction, that could make a show unaffordable very quickly. There is absolutely no way that a show like this can make a return on investment with media being that expensive, and for what? The existing films already provide a ton of previously made content that is relevant, recognizeable, and good. It's just up to the show creators now to do something creative with that instead of just playing clips. And playing clips alone isn't a cheap option either. Every time a clip is played, there are multiple royalties and license fees paid to the studios, creators, and actors featured.

The words "clip show" get thrown around in a derogatory way as if using film clips automatically makes a show bad. I completely disagree. While I want more than just clips on water screens, using existing clips in a new way to build a show seems incredibly relevant at a movie studio theme park. It doesn't make the show cheap or lazy, it's a creative path that can be done well or done poorly.

Somewhere, someone got everyone on a high horse about shows like this and made the word "clip show" a swear word. Think about it realistically, the criticism doesn't completely make sense.
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I wouldn't count out original animation
 
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MrPipps said:
Original animation can be as expensive as $800k-$1mil per second. Live action isn't much cheaper these days...
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So a second costs 1 million, a minute would then cost 60 million and an hour long animated or life action movie costs 3600 million dollar? Sure...
 
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The press release said “featuring all new animation.”
 
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New platforms are new to me. Anyone posted these yet? One bigger low one and smaller tall one.

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AliciaStella said:
New platforms are new to me. Anyone posted these yet? One bigger low one and smaller tall one.

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A Minion is gonna zipline from the big to the small
 
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AliciaStella said:
New platforms are new to me. Anyone posted these yet? One bigger low one and smaller tall one.

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Yeah, bio did a few days ago. Said projector platforms.

ETA maybe it was @Briman
 
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Yeah, bio did a few days ago. Said projector platforms.

ETA maybe it was Briman
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I wish they would've kept it the same wooden themed structure as the one in the background
 
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Yung1522 said:
I wish they would've kept it the same wooden themed structure as the one in the background
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I doubt they will leave it like that. See Hogsmeade
 
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In second place is: biorecontruct.

 
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AliciaStella said:
The press release said “featuring all new animation.”
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That answers that question.

I have nothing against movieclips. It's just that I don't want to go see a show multiple times if that is the main part of the show. Pretty much once and done for me.
 
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Yeah, those new trusses basically confirm either projections on the buildings or another show element.
 
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Oh no! I REAAAAAALY want the barges back now. /s
 
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Visually much better. Now let’s see what the show amounts to.
 
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Needs more barges.
 
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Nick said:
You are being very lazy with how you’re describing shows if just because it uses a few (short) water screen segments it qualifies Fantasmic! as a “clip show”.

Fantasmic is easily the most theatrical and also a very unique night show when compared. So much goes into making that show happen every night.
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Too bad ours is way move heavy on the water screen/clips then Disneyland's.
 
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OLSinFLA said:
Too bad ours is way move heavy on the water screen/clips then Disneyland's.
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Hopefully after Illuminations gets it’s update, Fantasmic! will finally get an update that puts ours on-par or better than DLs.

I’m assuming by the 50th they will want it updated.
 
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tielo said:
So a second costs 1 million, a minute would then cost 60 million and an hour long animated or life action movie costs 3600 million dollar? Sure...
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It eventually goes down once you hit feature lengths, but yes. That is the cost of animation and media. There are variations depending on eventual quality output and rendering location, but feature quality is in that range.
 
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MrPipps said:
It eventually goes down once you hit feature lengths, but yes. That is the cost of animation and media. There are variations depending on eventual quality output and rendering location, but feature quality is in that range.
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Coco, insideout and up costed 175 million. Coco was 105 minutes long so costed about 1.67 million a minute. That doesn't come close to the 1 million a second you stated.
But for the show I like to see it's not even relevant. For a projection show you don't need to create the sets and all character models are already created. It just comes down to writing, animation, rendering, voice and music. That would make the price per minute much lower.
 
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