add pic above (last page). I will tend to edit if there is no new post to not clutter so what I say may change a lot in here. lolI'll rewatch. I edited my last response to add something else about Maeve.
add pic above (last page). I will tend to edit if there is no new post to not clutter so what I say may change a lot in here. lolI'll rewatch. I edited my last response to add something else about Maeve.
Was literally about to post that.Wow- great recap. This is my new recap go to for sure.
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Interestingly enough- they throw an Easter egg of Yule Brenner from the 70s movie in the background this episode. Haha
Was literally about to post that.
What is the music that plays when Felix shows Maeve around the building? It sounds familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
I hope they release the soundtrack.Not sure when- but I recognized two songs. They were from Radiohead- "Motion Picture Soundtrack" and the instrumental was "Fake Plastic Trees" (love that song) when she was waking. If it had words- it was motion picture.
Interestingly enough, now that I think about it, they played "No surprises" from Radiohead in the second or third episode. Seems that's an artist they're liking- all their bleak and hopeless stuff. Haha
Was literally about to post that.
What is the music that plays when Felix shows Maeve around the building? It sounds familiar but I can't put my finger on it.
I have a quick thought- is Delores retracing her steps with William's storyline?
I know we saw William and Logan alone, so what we're watching aren't all flashbacks. But could some of those be what we're seeing.
I think in the William/Logan scenes, we are seeing exactly how they played out. But when Delores is having "visions"- it is actually present day Delores having flashbacks during those scenes (specifically, episode 5 where she sees herself and then the card reader who disappears). Basically, she's tracing her steps in present day of where she and William went. That would also explain when she is speaking to the girl in the Mexican town, who is all alone and looks like she just had her mom die, then the cut to the security guard saying Delores is going off loop, then the townsman trying to redirect her. All of that happened without William or Logan in the scene.
So even with William/logans storyline we are getting flashes of the present Delores tracing her story. Which will eventually get her closer to the maze and her and old William (MIB) meeting at the same place where they left off essentially. Right now, Delores is a few steps behind MIB in present.
I'm loving this thought.
Great episode, the best so far, I think. I think I've watched every episode at least 2 times so far (I think I watched the pilot 3 or 4 times) and I'll probably watch this one at least 3 times.
My random thoughts:
- I think part of my enjoyment of this episode was no William/Logan/Dolores story line. Overall, I think that has been my least favorite part of the show.
- I'm still hoping either A. we aren't seeing two different eras of the same timeline of B. they just come out and tell us already. I changed my mind from my last bullet - THIS is my least favorite part of the show.
- Side note - there has to be a better way to say it than 'multiple timelines'. If the theories are correct, it's the same timeline, we're just watching it at two different points. I'm not smart enough to come up with a better way to say it.
- I also really hope that neither Logan nor William are the MiB and that Bernard isn't Arnold. MiB and Arnold should be someone we don't already know. We can't keep kicking around the 5 characters. We're just past half way through Season 1, if we've already met the past version of MiB and the future version of Arnold, they've given a way a lot of plot very early in a 5 season arc.
- Since I am still on the 'neither Logan nor William are the MiB' train - here's one thing that may not match up: When MiB took Lawrence back to his hometown, MiB acted like he'd never been there and didn't know about the place. However, we know that both William and Logan did go to that town.
- I'm also still wondering why MiB had to scalp the guy to get an image of the maze. William can't seem to get away from that image. If they are the same person, wouldn't MiB know that symbol?
- The 'tour' scenes - while incredibly unbelievable that no one notices a 'butcher' walking around in his Deadliest Catch dress whites, I still LOVED the tour. We, as viewers, needed that. I do wish they would have had Felix change to different clothes so he didn't stick out so much.
- Seeing host come to life was pretty cool. Looks like they DO have a 'add blood here' port. Maybe the MiB knew where it was located under the skin and pumped up Teddy through it. Might also be the same way they introduced the nitro glycerin to the dead host.
- All of Maeve's scenes were so good. Thandi Newton killed it.
- While Dolores, William, and MiB are all looking for the front door of the maze, Maeve is trying to take a shortcut through the back door.
- Felix should have edited her and just turned her skills and personality traits way down. I suppose she'd eventually get turned back up again, though - but none of this ends well for Felix.
- If Siesmore isn't fired, either Delos needs a new HR team or he's much better at his job than we were lead to believe early on.
- Speaking of Delos' HR - they definitely need to add mental health coverage to their benefits. And Ford should be the first to take advantage.
- Maybe Ford is a host and we are seeing the literal version of 'having a screw loose'. He's already shown plenty of signs of issues and this week, he had a rough episode. Bernard sniffs out his robo-family, his younger self kills the pet greyhound, and then lies about it.
- Elsie playing Nancy Drew was fun.
- Elsie and Bernard investigating without backup show just how 'in control' they feel.
- When Theresa took over the Woodcutter investigation then next thing we know, the Woodcutter is incinerator-bound, it seemed to point to her hiding something. Looks like that's the case. And who is helping her? Could be Stubbs, that would explain him just wanting to cut the head off the Woodcutter - but again, I hope it's someone we don't know.
Wow, I had more thoughts than I thought I did! Maybe Felix turned up my characteristics.
At this point, I don't understand how anyone can argue two timelines- you're right- we should call it "points in time"
THAT'S the word I was looking for!"Timeframes" would be the correct terminology.
Always love your takeaways @cshaaf
At this point, I don't understand how anyone can argue two timelines- you're right- we should call it "points in time". I also think this show, as smart as it is, feels like it shouldn't have some crazy reveal. They want their audience to figure it out on their own. Yes, at their own pace, but on their own nonetheless.
Just this last episode we saw the old logo on two different occasions and the new on two separate ocassions. If that's not the writers saying "have you not figured this out yet?" Then I don't know what is. We're going to see William eventually rip open a robot and see mechanical parts just to clear things up for any doubters-but I wouldn't ever expect an "xyz" giveaway. They trust their audience and respect them more than that.old: the computer downstairs, the beacon, new: the windows during Maeve's tour, the commercial Maeve watches
It's almost like they are giving us way too many "hey, look at this!" moments. Maybe they'll still have a twist that explains it a different way.
I have a quick thought- is Delores retracing her steps with William's storyline?
I know we saw William and Logan alone, so what we're watching aren't all flashbacks. But could some of those be what we're seeing.
I think in the William/Logan scenes, we are seeing exactly how they played out. But when Delores is having "visions"- it is actually present day Delores having flashbacks during those scenes (specifically, episode 5 where she sees herself and then the card reader who disappears). Basically, she's tracing her steps in present day of where she and William went. That would also explain when she is speaking to the girl in the Mexican town, who is all alone and looks like she just had her mom die, then the cut to the security guard saying Delores is going off loop, then the townsman trying to redirect her. All of that happened without William or Logan in the scene.
So even with William/logans storyline we are getting flashes of the present Delores tracing her story. Which will eventually get her closer to the maze and her and old William (MIB) meeting at the same place where they left off essentially. Right now, Delores is a few steps behind MIB in present.
According to our different timelines, we aren't seeing current Delores at all unless she's retracing the steps as I mentioned above. That and Fords interview with her (and Bernard if you don't buy into the three Timeline theory). So where the hell is she if not this?
I'm loving this thought.
Thanks Reddit for confirming it further
I have a single co-worker who watches this and mentioned that william and Lawrence disappeared in the train on episode 5. A quick reddit search and here you go.
Again- this is further proof that william/lawrence/delores are in the past, and present-day delores is following her footsteps from 30 years ago. Hence them disappearing (top is 30 years ago, bottom pic is her in the present). Speaking to the tarot card lady is 30 years ago, sitting there after she disappears is the present. Speaking to the girl at the well who told MiB about the Maze is Delores present. Etc.
Although- why the hell are there two caskets in there? My brain.... help!
I might be the only happy one if that happensIts going to be funny when William and MiB meet in a scene together and the massive shocking twist is that there was no twist. :clap: