Future Universal Projects and Parks
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Yes, clearly you can comment on the quality of a property by knowing nothing about it. Either way, LOTR would be vastly more profitable and popular than Star Trek. Though I think both would be good gets for them.
I doubt they got the LOTR rights, unless Christopher Tolkein died and I'm not aware of it.
both properties would be great additions to the parks.... they both are very adaptable to a theme park setting with a history of popularity
I don't know, I think both have a "nerd-stench" on them you don't find with Potter or Marvel. I think there are better IPs out there, even if none might be as visually striking as LotR.
I'm with you, tho, still not convinced LotR will ever be sold.
Re: Wet n Wild. Should be large enough for a boutique park like Discovery Cove, which has long been the Holy Grail of the Orlando theme park industry. I'm still clueless what you base a park like that off of (other than Potter or swimming with dolphins), but I wouldn't rule out that possibility.
I mean, the LOTR movies have made billions of dollars. The Hobbit films didn't do as well, but they also weren't as good. But LOTR was a legit phenomenon when they were out.
Star Trek I'd call a large niche. Totally a made up term, but while everyone knows what Star Trek is, I don't think many people outside of its core fanbase really like it at all. I mean, the new, more accessible movies didn't do all that great at the box office.
Yea, I don't think there's any chance of that now that Potter is fully integrated into the other parks. I'm expecting WnW to become a resort, if anything.
The Hobbit movies weren't as good as The Lord of the Rings movies, but still made tons of money.
Star Trek didnt do great at the box office? The two newest movies combined for over $800 million dollars. That's not too shabby.
Regardless of numbers, both properties should be purchased by Universal. They're two of the best still out there not in theme parks.
For big budget movies with a household name behind them, no, that honestly isn't that great
It didn't really have any competition, hence the big numbers. Not saying SpongeBob wouldn't do well against other kids movies, but it was the lone one going up against a trio of R rated movies in 50 Shades, Kingsman, and American Sniper
Star Trek has a massive fan base. I love both ST and LotR, but ST would be a much safer play. Everyone knows the Star Trek brand whether young or old. Not mention, a big percentage of Star Wars fans also are Star Trek fans, so it would be a great response for Uni (and Disney for that matter), if a ST land was built. Regardless, I would be more than happy with either of those franchises, and to someones point, those are probably the two biggest still available out there.
STID made about 100 million more than double it's budget, that's still better than what most movies do. The next Star Trek is going to be huge if William Shatner is in it, seeing Kirk and Spock on screen together again would guarantee a huge number.
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I have to disagree. Attempting to put my obvious bias aside, my gut says that Lord of the Rings would maybe bring a initial larger spike of attendance and a profitability than Star Trek would, but I get the sense that LOTR is not something that is in the cultural consciousness as much as Star Trek when there are not movies being released. Just the impression I have. And what will click with the average person when they imagine a fun theme park experience as they're planning their vacation deciding which parks to visit? With Star Trek it's easy to immediately conjure the mental image of something like being on the bridge of the Enterprise zooming through space in the middle of a battle with the Klingons, but is there an equivalent with LOTR? Is there an experience out of those movies that folks would get excited about, not to mention something that is easily translatable into a theme park experience? Another point is merchandise... that's obviously a HUGE factor now. I personally don't see the themed merchandising opportunities with Lord of the Rings. The ring, obviously, but what else? I've wracked my brain ever since this rumor surfaced and am at a complete loss for anything that doesn't devolve into traditional souvenirs like t-shirts and such. Hairy Hobbit feet slippers? And I assume there's probably some kind of food and beverage opportunity, but nothing that I think is obvious. But Star Trek has phasers, communicators, tricorders, uniform shirts, Romulan Ale, Cardassian Sunrises, Saurian brandy, Klingon bloodwine, raktajino, tranya, prune juice, green stuff, gagh, plomeek soup, etc., all much more in line with the merchandising model established at the Wizarding World. And my last point is longevity. Yes, Lord of the Rings has a huge place in literary and cinema history and will always be regarded as a timeless epic, BUT will there be more movies or anything that would help support a theme park attraction for years to come? Star Trek is still making movies, probably going to make a return to television within a few years, and just generally isn't likely to stop for a long, long time, keeping any theme park attraction appropriately relevant, perhaps with the occasional refresh. This is all purely my opinion, but I feel like Star Trek is just a little more relatable to the average person, that it's easier and maybe a little more appealing to envision themselves in this cool future, that it's fun to imagine yourself as a starship captain, just like it is to imagine yourself as a wizard. In my experience I just haven't gotten the impression that people feel that way with Lord of the Rings roles. Maybe someone who is a big fan of that franchise could respond and share how they feel it could practically work better in the parks.
LOTR /Hobbit have been around for 50 years and would be incredibly popular..i do think Star Trek adapts well to a theme park but I still get the feeling star trek is a little nerdy/niche, like others have said the last two star trek movies made about what the last hobbit movie made combined
as always IP means very little to me as long as the execution is at a high level
how many people thought butter beer would be the phenomenon it turned out to be? LOTR ha plenty of merchandising potential
as always IP means very little to me as long as the execution is at a high level
how many people thought butter beer would be the phenomenon it turned out to be? LOTR ha plenty of merchandising potential
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