Only because it didn’t offer ExpressWasn’t Sapphire Falls always a tier below Hard Rock, Royal Pacific, etc?
Only because it didn’t offer ExpressWasn’t Sapphire Falls always a tier below Hard Rock, Royal Pacific, etc?
The only reason I've never stayed at Sapphire, TBH. Love that you can still walk to the parks/get there without buses.Only because it didn’t offer Express
Only because it didn’t offer Express
not really pushing the limits of luxury- besides the prime location and view
These are straight up cheap-looking, though…And we're already doing the Vs. crap just shy of over an hour.
Universal hotels have always featured a simple and modern (in relation to the times) look. They've never been over the top. Disney got criticized because they sanitized some of their fantastical rooms (or overinjected IP like Contemporary).
If you don't like it, that's fine - but it's not a fair argument.
Cool. I guess I couldn't really tell through A CGI RENDERThese are straight up cheap-looking, though…
What? If we weren’t meant to judge the renders, they wouldn’t be released lol.Cool. I guess I couldn't really tell through A CGI RENDER
FFS
Cool strawman.What? If we weren’t meant to judge the renders, they wouldn’t be released lol.
If there's no Express at Helios, I'd expect Portofino, RP and Hard Rock to be a bit higher priced. Possibly around $100 less per night on standard rooms at Helios..
agreeCool strawman.
Don't like the look? Fine.
But there is no way to determine the hotel to be "cheap" because it's not your design preference (or expectation). When I hear cheap for a hotel, I think of cheap builds, cheap fabrics/sheets, cheap materials, etc. All of which CANNOT be determined through a render - especially since we don't even have the price point in conjunction to compare it.
The hotel's selling point was always the amenities & views, and the room's design is exactly in line with Universal's other top-tier hotels. I don't know what y'all expected.
I’ll bite — what do you mean by the distinction here?Premier/Signature ≠ Luxury.
If you want Miracosta, Portofino is a water taxi away.
I think we should "split" Helios in two when it comes to pricing. Rooms with park views will be the most expensive at UOR possibly, with garden/parking-lot views underneath/competing with the other signature collection hotels.
Wait, do you not agree that a CGI-rendered image shown along with a press release is a tool meant to help sell the rooms based on how they look?Cool strawman.
That’s why I said “cheap-looking.”But there is no way to determine the hotel to be "cheap" because it's not your design preference (or expectation). When I hear cheap for a hotel, I think of cheap builds, cheap fabrics/sheets, cheap materials, etc. All of which CANNOT be determined through a render - especially since we don't even have the price point in conjunction to compare it.
Absolutely…but you get proximity and views at Aventura as well. The “top tier” part is where the aesthetic appeal of the property comes in. I acknowledged I don’t know what the rack rates will be, but was kind of assuming they’d be in the $600+ range. If I’m on the Bonvoy site, I’d assume these rooms belonged to a midrange Sheraton or Marriott property at a tier below that.The hotel's selling point was always the amenities & views, and the room's design is exactly in line with Universal's other top-tier hotels. I don't know what y'all expected.
I’ll bite — what do you mean by the distinction here?
I said what I said, and I'll leave it at that.Wait, do you not agree that a CGI-rendered image shown along with a press release is a tool meant to help sell the rooms based on how they look?
I think the common areas look incredible—is that fair to say based on CGI renderings?
That’s why I said “cheap-looking.”
Absolutely…but you get proximity and views at Aventura as well. The “top tier” part is where the aesthetic appeal of the property comes in. I acknowledged I don’t know what the rack rates will be, but was kind of assuming they’d be in the $600+ range. If I’m on the Bonvoy site, I’d assume these rooms belonged to a midrange Sheraton or Marriott property at a tier below that.
And in any case, I didn’t even make that point for the sole purpose of s******g on the place. I saw that you jumped down a guy’s throat for expressing the same thought chalking it up to “Vs crap.” I’m just saying I think if you’re well-travelled in resort destinations then mild disappointment is a fair opinion to have (thoughts on Disney excluded).