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There is no reason to be this toxic over an updated KidZone. It's okay if they can increase their market share in families and younger audiences, even if its not their core demographic base. Surprisingly you can do both!
Disney IS competing for the thrill seeker crowd. They just opened a GotG coaster and are about to open a Tron coaster. Before that they opened a Star Wars land with a (bad) thrill-oriented simulator. Their biggest construction push in decades has been heavily thrill-focused.
Yes. and all should look at what KidZone is today, before it's torn down. The land is for the 'little ones', not the tweens. So, that does exist in a Universal that's about thrills. Soooo, there's always been room for the very young, though not a ton of room.There is no reason to be this toxic over an updated KidZone. It's okay if they can increase their market share in families and younger audiences, even if its not their core demographic base. Surprisingly you can do both!
This is like saying Disney is competing for the thrill seeker crowd because Rockin Roller Coaster exists.
So we're just limiting our definition to naked thrill coasters? OK, Uni has 3 (soon 6) and Disney has none. But on those very narrow terms, the "adrenaline junky" will ALWAYS be able to get more bang for his buck at Cedar Point or Knotts - or the local Six Flags. Universal's claims to being more "thrill oriented" and the discussion in this thread rests just as much on rides like Jurassic Park, Transformers, and Simpsons. On those terms, yes, Smuggler's Run absolutely counts.Lol. TRON's single launch and a few helixes in a box is not going to move the needle for actual thrill seekers. Disney's coasters are fun enough, but to think they're competing for the adrenaline junky crowd is laughable.
Also doubly laughable is to imply that Smuggler's Run is a thrill ride.
Literally no one is saying that. Universal has always had kiddie areas. But that's what they've always been. Areas for the kiddies to run around and burn some energy while the target demographics enjoy the big rides. The point I'm making is I don't know why we're still gnashing teeth when that (largely successful) formula continues to hold true moving forward.Yes, Universal is mostly about the older kids demo, but not exclusively, and KidZone is the proof.
I mean I would not even come close to calling Transformers or Simpsons thrill rides either.So we're just limiting our definition to naked thrill coasters? OK, Uni has 3 (soon 6) and Disney has none. But on those very narrow terms, the "adrenaline junky" will ALWAYS be able to get more bang for his buck at Cedar Point or Knotts - or the local Six Flags. Universal's claims to being more "thrill oriented" and the discussion in this thread rests just as much on rides like Jurassic Park, Transformers, and Simpsons. On those terms, yes, Smuggler's Run absolutely counts.
A new KFP film was announced recently right? Ship has definitely not sailed yet....No Kung Fu Panda. That IP ship has sailed. Land in Beijing was because of Chinese culture link, so that shouldn't be seen as precedent. Also, anything China is not especially popular in the USA of today.
KFP film will do well in China's large theatrical market, and that may well be the major intent.A new KFP film was announced recently right? Ship has definitely not sailed yet.
The differences between it and HTTYD, NA box office wise, aren't all that much different. I think you're selling it short.KFP film will do well in China's large theatrical market, and that may well be the major intent.
I’m a college football fan but I think the most intense and hostile discourse I’ve seen all year online has been from you guys defending a playground repaint
Early prediction (just guesses):
IP:s
*Trolls (so far seems 'very popular' with USF audiences)
*Shrek (past love and future films synergy)
*Madagascar OR Super Silly Minions area. Even though it's split from Production Central.
...On the border : SLOP: Positive: New USF President spearheaded it in Hollywood. Plus it's a very good ride. Negative: Building timeline is probably too long for how soon
they want to open this land. And SLOP merchandise doesn't sell well in USF.
...No Kung Fu Panda. That IP ship has sailed. Land in Beijing was because of Chinese culture link, so that shouldn't be seen as precedent. Also, anything China is not especially popular in the USA of today.
...No Sing. Only because USF has been so adverse to live theater productions in the past few years, plus Animal Actors live theater is adjacent.
...No HTDYD, since it's dominate in Epic.
We’re rumored to get two of these.
Also, by all means, Blue Sky. Look at things in the current land that you hope they tweak. Joe and some others have mentioned bulldozing. Others have mentioned reskins. The former Barney courtyard for example - if it’s a trolls show I’d love to see some Trolls trees out front. I’d love for them to find a way to make the ground cohesive with individual IP sections. Mini esthetically themed lands.
All I’m saying is don’t drive yourselves crazy with pre-dissapointment.
...No Kung Fu Panda. That IP ship has sailed. Land in Beijing was because of Chinese culture link, so that shouldn't be seen as precedent. Also, anything China is not especially popular in the USA of today.
It definitely would make for a sweet playground!Once again going to counter on this. Kung Fu Panda is an IP that NBCUniversal is wanting to invest on; as this year, the Netflix TV show just began airing--and in 2024; Kung Fu Panda will be getting it's next sequel in the series. It's been popular enough to be warranted to be a definitive headline when USH did Lunar New Year; and they just invested a lot into the Beijing Land of Awesomeness.
Even if it's just going to be a play area, it makes sense to synergize with Kung Fu Panda's next theatrical film coming out around the time this seems to be opening.
It definitely would make for a sweet playground!
Lol. TRON's single launch and a few helixes in a box is not going to move the needle for actual thrill seekers. Disney's coasters are fun enough, but to think they're competing for the adrenaline junky crowd is laughable.
Also doubly laughable is to imply that Smuggler's Run is a thrill ride.