Universal Orlando Resort Expansion (Part 1)

[Mike S]

New overlook on the 3rd park. This is if LC gets replaced by Berk instead of Zelda, and if Uni. licenses Pokemon and LOTR.
-60% Nintendo (Nintendo, Zelda, Pokemon)
-20% Middle Earth (LOTR, Hobbit)
-15% Dreamworks (Croods, Shrek, Trolls, etc)
-5% Entrance Plaza
Just imagine that.

So almost a whole park that’s just Nintendo.

I have a hard time believing that. Just like Potter I expect them to split those 3 big IPs across the parks to push multipark tickets.

 

[JungleSkip]

So almost a whole park that’s just Nintendo.

I have a hard time believing that.

I said this in the Nintendo thread, but even if all three of those properties were in Park 3, and all of them got 10-12 acre lands, they'd still only be about 30% of the park. Nothing is going to get more than that in the new park.

 

[captainmoch]

I think a land around the size of Fantasyland is possible for Nintendo. And I mean current MK Fantasyland, which already is basically split up into three sections (the original "fairground" area, New Fantasyland, and Storybook Circus). Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Pokemon can all fit in here. If one of those goes to a different park, you can throw in something like Kirby or Splatoon instead.

 

[Magic-Man]

I think a land around the size of Fantasyland is possible for Nintendo. And I mean current MK Fantasyland, which already is basically split up into three sections (the original "fairground" area, New Fantasyland, and Storybook Circus). Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Pokemon can all fit in here. If one of those goes to a different park, you can throw in something like Kirby or Splatoon instead.

God, I totally forgot about Kirby.

 

[chewbacca1995]

I think a land around the size of Fantasyland is possible for Nintendo. And I mean current MK Fantasyland, which already is basically split up into three sections (the original "fairground" area, New Fantasyland, and Storybook Circus). Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Pokemon can all fit in here. If one of those goes to a different park, you can throw in something like Kirby or Splatoon instead.

I think spread

New overlook on the 3rd park. This is if LC gets replaced by Berk instead of Zelda, and if Uni. licenses Pokemon and LOTR.
-60% Nintendo (Nintendo, Zelda, Pokemon)
-20% Middle Earth (LOTR, Hobbit)
-15% Dreamworks (Croods, Shrek, Trolls, etc)
-5% Entrance Plaza
Just imagine that.

I would think the new gate would be:
25% Nintendo (Mushroom Kingdom 10%, Donkey Kong Country 7.5%, Hyrule 7.5%)
20% DreamWorks (Shrek, HTTYD, KFP, Madagascar, Trolls and Croods in a Fantasyland type village)
12.5% Middle Earth
12.5% Transylvania
10% original land
15% expansion space (three 2.5% expansion pads would make sense)
5% entrance plaza/street

Pokémon replacing Toon Lagoon does sound like a good fit (Popeye rethemed, Me Ship the Olive overlay; rest of TL levelled for E-ticket family coaster, D-ticket dark ride, C-ticket show, new shopping/dining plaza, B-ticket flat ride and A-ticket splash pad/play area)

LC is a wildcard. Same for KidZone, in this scenario.

 

[Magic-Man]

I think spread

I would think the new gate would be:
25% Nintendo (Mushroom Kingdom 10%, Donkey Kong Country 7.5%, Hyrule 7.5%)
20% DreamWorks (Shrek, HTTYD, KFP, Madagascar, Trolls and Croods in a Fantasyland type village)
12.5% Middle Earth
12.5% Transylvania
10% original land
15% expansion space (three 2.5% expansion pads would make sense)
5% entrance plaza/street

Pokémon replacing Toon Lagoon does sound like a good fit (Popeye rethemed, Me Ship the Olive overlay; rest of TL levelled for E-ticket family coaster, D-ticket dark ride, C-ticket show, new shopping/dining plaza, B-ticket flat ride and A-ticket splash pad/play area)

LC is a wildcard. Same for KidZone, in this scenario.

I'd think that Hyrule would be bigger, as well as Middle Earth. Transylvania might be a little too big.

 

[Teebin]

This all harks of JPRA and how they were going to build it at Universal Studios and at the last minute it was yanked to be the lead of JP at IOA.

 

[Magic-Man]

Except it looks like everything is being yanked off to the new park. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if MoM got moved

 

[GadgetGuru]

Except it looks like everything is being yanked off to the new park. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if MoM got moved

This makes me wonder what the plan for the new park was. Were they expecting to get the rights for some IP (LoTR?) that didn't pan out?

 

[Magic-Man]

This makes me wonder what the plan for the new park was. Were they expecting to get the rights for some IP (LoTR?) that didn't pan out?

I think they already have the LOTR deal worked out, but they will probably wait until the new park gets partially announced to say anything about it. As for the rest, I think they just wanted the new park to be the best that it could be, so they added Nintendo in.

 

[jseal777]

I think spread

I would think the new gate would be:
25% Nintendo (Mushroom Kingdom 10%, Donkey Kong Country 7.5%, Hyrule 7.5%)
20% DreamWorks (Shrek, HTTYD, KFP, Madagascar, Trolls and Croods in a Fantasyland type village)
12.5% Middle Earth
12.5% Transylvania
10% original land
15% expansion space (three 2.5% expansion pads would make sense)
5% entrance plaza/street

Pokémon replacing Toon Lagoon does sound like a good fit (Popeye rethemed, Me Ship the Olive overlay; rest of TL levelled for E-ticket family coaster, D-ticket dark ride, C-ticket show, new shopping/dining plaza, B-ticket flat ride and A-ticket splash pad/play area)

LC is a wildcard. Same for KidZone, in this scenario.

When you say Transylvania, is that like classic Uni monsters or some IP I’m not recognizing?

 

[Magic-Man]

When you say Transylvania, is that like classic Uni monsters or some IP I’m not recognizing?

I think he means Hotel Transylvania, the kids animated movie series.

 

[jseal777]

I think it would be a smart idea to use the 3rd dry park to play on nostalgia a bit. Uni doesn’t do it much but I think there’s a good bit of nostalgia to be mined in the parks. Either a “classic” section at the new park or doing something with some land that’s freed up at Studios at some point after the new gate opens.

 

[Teebin]

Still in the news...

 

[Mad Dog]

Still in the news...

Real Estate investment/development is just filled with scam artists like Thomas. There's been quite a few in the Pittsburgh area too, and many have landed in Federal prison for their loan & land scams. It's a slimy business.

 

[Brian G.]

Screenz are done.

Nothing really to do with the expansion itself - but general mantra going forward for all future additions. I know it's been mentioned in the past but I wanted to reiterate it since that was shared with me recently and it is good news.

 

[JungleSkip]

Screenz are done.

Nothing really to do with the expansion itself - but general mantra going forward for all future additions. I know it's been mentioned in the past but I wanted to reiterate it since that was shared with me recently and it is good news.

Good to hear that's still the direction.

 

[Brian G.]

Good to hear that's still the direction.

Agreed.

I think we'll see screens used to accentuate scenes, a la Na'vi River Journey - but they no longer will be the focus.

 

[JungleSkip]

Agreed.

I think we'll see screens used to accentuate scenes, a la Na'vi River Journey - but they no longer will be the focus.

Right. Realistically it's impossible to make a modern theme park attraction with no screens, but a better balance moving forward is a good thing.

Plus I want to see all these crazy AA concepts they've been working on.

 

[shiekra38]

I think he means Hotel Transylvania, the kids animated movie series.

Kill me.

How likely is some of Dreamworks to go to IOA? Specifically, Berk and Ancient China