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I think you would see Seek and Destroy get the house treatment before CryptTV.
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Honestly, with the right environment and more variety in the costumes, you have an original type squid game concept right there :shrug:
 
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I think you would see Seek and Destroy get the house treatment before CryptTV.
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WOOF, that’s kinda sad lol

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Honestly, with the right environment and more variety in the costumes, you have an original type squid game concept right there :shrug:
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Having the controller as either the facade or the finale talking to us live would be incredible though, not to get too off topic
 
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I think Squid Game has a serious fighting chance this year - Do I want Squid Game? Not necessarily. I really only thought the couple first episodes were cool. Do I think it'll make a good house, per say? I'm very open when it comes to IPs, we've seen the team time and time again tackle properties that the community has called IMPOSSIBLE since day one, so I'm not gonna say a Squid Game house/scarezone would be destined to be bad, but I also wouldn't say I have full confidence in it being good. It seriously CAN'T be ignored how much of a breakout success the show was, and that it is juuuuust horror adjacent ENOUGH to where a Netflix exec may very well try to push it if the Netflix/HHN relationship is still there. If Squid Game is as much of a part of the cultural zeitgeist a year from today as it is right now, I think SOMETHING Squid Game related is more than likely to appear at HHN 31. Whether that be a house, scarezone, whatever interactive experience, etc. They were doing a Game of Thrones house at some point. It's not out of the realm of possibility at all for them to do Squid Game, whether we like it or not.

At the very least, as a house it'll be something similar to SAW except with the mask dudes instead of Pigs. And as a scarezone it'll be a similar repeat to S&D except with an IP that'll drive sales.
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It feels like people are equating popularity on Netflix to a HHN lock, but Netflix’s distribution of a show doesn’t guarantee them the right to license the content. I dont know the specific details of Squid Game’s production, but a quick search shows it was made by a small independent Korean company. There’s no telling if they’d play ball with a US haunted house event.

An example here is Friends…yeah it was shown by NBC, but it was produced by Warner’s, so they own it and will ensure Universal never represents it.
 
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It feels like people are equating popularity on Netflix to a HHN lock, but Netflix’s distribution of a show doesn’t guarantee them the right to license the content. I dont know the specific details of Squid Game’s production, but a quick search shows it was made by a small independent Korean company. There’s no telling if they’d play ball with a US haunted house event.

An example here is Friends…yeah it was shown by NBC, but it was produced by Warner’s, so they own it and will ensure Universal never represents it.
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Very good point, I didn’t think about that. I just personally believe that it’s something that is juuuust “horror adjacent” and wildly popular enough for Uni/Netflix execs to try and fight for. If said Korean company plays ball is of course another story entirely.
 
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I think you would see Seek and Destroy get the house treatment before CryptTV.
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Base a house on the worst scarezone of all time, sure why not

And I don't want to hear any of crap about Nightmaze, I got scares in that zone
 
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Very good point, I didn’t think about that. I just personally believe that it’s something that is juuuust “horror adjacent” and wildly popular enough for Uni/Netflix execs to try and fight for. If said Korean company plays ball is of course another story entirely.
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Yeah, given how crazy it has taken over the zeitgeist I agree. Just trying to contribute to the conversation by casually flexing my very limited knowledge of showbiz hahaha
 
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It feels like people are equating popularity on Netflix to a HHN lock, but Netflix’s distribution of a show doesn’t guarantee them the right to license the content. I dont know the specific details of Squid Game’s production, but a quick search shows it was made by a small independent Korean company. There’s no telling if they’d play ball with a US haunted house event.

An example here is Friends…yeah it was shown by NBC, but it was produced by Warner’s, so they own it and will ensure Universal never represents it.
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I agree with this, if anything they could incorporate some elements or play of some ideas in a Run sequel

I suppose my biggest gripe with a Squid Games house would be that, for it to work, it would need to be highly interactive to the point of being an upcharge experience

I suppose they could do some hallways where the workers pop out and some wider areas that simulate the games with air blasts and such

But IMO it would fall short of delivering something memorable or different than another house could provide

As I'm typing this I'm thinking of ways to do it with the mirror effect, red light green light girl, etc and my mind is making a way to do it

The only question is, is it really worth it when you have Bly Manor, Stranger things, Chucky, Halloween, etc
 
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I agree with this, if anything they could incorporate some elements or play of some ideas in a Run sequel

I suppose my biggest gripe with a Squid Games house would be that, for it to work, it would need to be highly interactive to the point of being an upcharge experience

I suppose they could do some hallways where the workers pop out and some wider areas that simulate the games with air blasts and such

But IMO it would fall short of delivering something memorable or different than another house could provide
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I just don't really get this point though because this was essentially what the Saw houses were. I didn't even like the Saw houses, and, again, I don't even really want a Squid Game house.

But still, the Saw houses were almost entirely voyeuristic in nature. You saw neat little effects of people getting tortured by the various traps with a Billy or Pig scare every now and then. A MASSIVE part of the fear of Saw is being in those traps. But were you ever actually in those traps interacting with them in the houses? Nope. The big fear in 'Us' is that you're literally being hunted by yourself. Did that happen in the house? Of course not. I'm not saying that either of those houses were great or had perfect design, but that's pretty much almost entirely what you could do with Squid Game. Of course, there's the whole legal deal of having to get the production company on board, but unless they're known for being particularly stingy, I don't know why they would pass up on the money printing machine that is HHN.

I don't want to turn this into this year's Billie debate, lol, but I think the people saying it's impossible or absolutely not HHN worthy in any way is a bit silly.
 
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Chucky seems like a safe bet with the success of the show and renewed general public interest in the character. If Scream's ever going to happen, it'll be next year and will probably be limited to the events of the new movie. (Fortunately, the new movie revisits many of the locations from the original film, so that isn't exactly a big problem.) Netflix will get a property and my money is on Fear Street - well-suited to Hollywood's presentation (remember, all the filmmakers and celebrities go see the stuff out there) and can also take advantage of Orlando's grander venues. There'll almost certainly be another Monster house, and I don't think it's hard to figure out what direction they'll go. If Nope is adaptable to the maze format, I'm sure it's coming.

Last Night in SoHo could've been cool - it's a Focus property - but it's not doing very well at the box office and will likely be out of the general conversation by next year.

I think the Icons are benched, even if some sects of the community is desperate for more opportunities to salivate over them. If anything, a single icon is resurrected and is allowed to actually be scary. (Caretaker, greasy Eddie.) Even then, if I had to put money down, I'd bet no returning icon and probably no new one, either.

No idea on shows or zones. Not holding out hope for the zones to get any better, though.
 
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HHN 31 early spec.
(Some of this may be more of a “shot in the dark” but I’ll try to keep it spec.)

Dates: 9/9/22(2nd weekend of Sep.)-11/6/22(Sunday after Halloween)

Icon- Jance :grin:

Halloween- Seems to be a popular IP for spec. And many will want it. Can't go wrong with Micheal Myers. He will draw people to the event. Like him or not.

Universal Monsters- seems like as have one every year now. Maybe we will get a Creature house as he was in Brides. Maybe It was just a nod to him and means nothing. Guess we will see.

Netflix IP- Since 28 we had on with StrTh 1, StrTh 2&3, and HoHH. My guess is StrTh 4 but can also see Fear Street depending on the StrTh release date.

Chucky- with the success of the zone in 28 it's only a matter of time till he's back as a house or zone. We saw him sorta this year with the photo op. and with the new TV show why not have him back for 31.

Crypt TV- Guest seemed to like the zone as it was always full of people stopping for pics/vids or just to watch and with it the “girl in the woods”
Coming out and the Crypt TV tweet, I see it coming.

Creepshow-(probably the most “shot in the dark”) Hollywood had it and it was rumored for HHN 30 with it being on HNN spec. Map.

Nightmare Fuel- This show was probably one of the best things about HHN 30 so I’m sure it’ll be back in someway.

Marathon of Mayhem- I heard it was not as well revived as it was for 29 at 30 so we might not see it make a return if it was truly not well received.
 
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Last Night In Soho could actually make for a good house, but I did not like the film very much at all. The film will definitely be forgotten by next year, but I feel like it would surprisingly make for a great house. Oh well.
 
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Last Night in SoHo could've been cool - it's a Focus property - but it's not doing very well at the box office and will likely be out of the general conversation by next year.
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Last Night In Soho could actually make for a good house, but I did not like the film very much at all. The film will definitely be forgotten by next year, but I feel like it would surprisingly make for a great house. Oh well.
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Soho feels like Crimson Peak on a much smaller scale: it needed to be a house this year to capitalize off whatever momentum it had. If it gains cult classic status, maybe it shows up years down the line.
 
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I just don't really get this point though because this was essentially what the Saw houses were. I didn't even like the Saw houses, and, again, I don't even really want a Squid Game house.

But still, the Saw houses were almost entirely voyeuristic in nature. You saw neat little effects of people getting tortured by the various traps with a Billy or Pig scare every now and then. A MASSIVE part of the fear of Saw is being in those traps. But were you ever actually in those traps interacting with them in the houses? Nope. The big fear in 'Us' is that you're literally being hunted by yourself. Did that happen in the house? Of course not. I'm not saying that either of those houses were great or had perfect design, but that's pretty much almost entirely what you could do with Squid Game. Of course, there's the whole legal deal of having to get the production company on board, but unless they're known for being particularly stingy, I don't know why they would pass up on the money printing machine that is HHN.

I don't want to turn this into this year's Billie debate, lol, but I think the people saying it's impossible or absolutely not HHN worthy in any way is a bit silly.
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The Saw houses were terrible, the only time they were good is when Universal veered from the voyeuristic formula

Even if they did the Red Light Green Light game...Glass Bridge game...And cutting out/licking cookies game (as riveting as that would be) at half the scale it would come across as silly

Sure they could use "forced perspective" and mirror gags, of course...but I fear it wouldn't be convincing enough even with them throwing all their tricks at it

Even with Saw's voyeuristic nature, it still lends itself to the linear hallways and tight rooms that a haunted house needs to be successful
 
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The Saw houses were terrible, the only time they were good is when Universal veered from the voyeuristic formula

Even if they did the Red Light Green Light game...Glass Bridge game...And cutting out/licking cookies game (as riveting as that would be) at half the scale it would come across as silly

Sure they could use "forced perspective" and mirror gags, of course...but I fear it wouldn't be convincing enough even with them throwing all their tricks at it

Even with Saw's voyeuristic nature, it still lends itself to the linear hallways and tight rooms that a haunted house needs to be successful
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Fair on all counts, just thought I'd explain how I can imagine it being similar to Saw even if it ended up being a stinker.
 
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Fair on all counts, just thought I'd explain how I can imagine it being similar to Saw even if it ended up being a stinker.
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Yeah I don't agree with folks that think HHN is a catch-all for anything that even glances at horror

There's just some properties that don't really need to be featured
 
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Hopefully this year marks the year when we will finally see a All Nite Die In: Take 2 IPs show up officially and finally. Hellraiser! is my big bold bet of the year, but I see people are also mentioning Scream and The Silence of the Lambs.

If anyone else was to speculate on which All Nite Die In: Take 2 IP was going to show up for HHN 31, which one would y'all pick?
 
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Hopefully this year marks the year when we will finally see a All Nite Die In: Take 2 IPs show up officially and finally. Hellraiser! is my big bold bet of the year, but I see people are also mentioning Scream and The Silence of the Lambs.

If anyone else was to speculate on which All Nite Die In: Take 2 IP was going to show up for HHN 31, which one would y'all pick?
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Honestly out of all the original house properties they should tap into it's All Nite

I thought Slaughter Sinema was a spiritual successor, but I'd love to see them do ANDI: Take 3

All that said, ANDI was done at a pre-IP era time where short vignettes of horror properties were a big deal

Nowadays it's like just get the rights to Hellraiser and do a full Hellraiser house haha
 
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Hopefully this year marks the year when we will finally see a All Nite Die In: Take 2 IPs show up officially and finally. Hellraiser! is my big bold bet of the year, but I see people are also mentioning Scream and The Silence of the Lambs.

If anyone else was to speculate on which All Nite Die In: Take 2 IP was going to show up for HHN 31, which one would y'all pick?
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I feel like SoTL is probably the best bet if any of those were to get in but that's starting to get into baseless territory
 
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I have a theory (it's dumb but makes some sense)

Over the past two years we have had Ghostbusters and Beetlejuice. These Ip's use to be featured at Universal one way or another and in a sense they were "making their return".
To complete the trilogy, Jaws could end this trend and make it as a house this year...
So....
Ghostbusters Spooktacular > Ghostbusters (2019)
Beetlejuice's Graveyard Revue > Beetlejuice (2020-2021)
Jaws the ride > Jaws (2022)

Just trying to connect the piece's we didn't realize we had.
 
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shiekra38 said:
I agree with this, if anything they could incorporate some elements or play of some ideas in a Run sequel

I suppose my biggest gripe with a Squid Games house would be that, for it to work, it would need to be highly interactive to the point of being an upcharge experience

I suppose they could do some hallways where the workers pop out and some wider areas that simulate the games with air blasts and such

But IMO it would fall short of delivering something memorable or different than another house could provide

As I'm typing this I'm thinking of ways to do it with the mirror effect, red light green light girl, etc and my mind is making a way to do it

The only question is, is it really worth it when you have Bly Manor, Stranger things, Chucky, Halloween, etc
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I just don't really get this point though because this was essentially what the Saw houses were. I didn't even like the Saw houses, and, again, I don't even really want a Squid Game house.

But still, the Saw houses were almost entirely voyeuristic in nature. You saw neat little effects of people getting tortured by the various traps with a Billy or Pig scare every now and then. A MASSIVE part of the fear of Saw is being in those traps. But were you ever actually in those traps interacting with them in the houses? Nope. The big fear in 'Us' is that you're literally being hunted by yourself. Did that happen in the house? Of course not. I'm not saying that either of those houses were great or had perfect design, but that's pretty much almost entirely what you could do with Squid Game. Of course, there's the whole legal deal of having to get the production company on board, but unless they're known for being particularly stingy, I don't know why they would pass up on the money printing machine that is HHN.

I don't want to turn this into this year's Billie debate, lol, but I think the people saying it's impossible or absolutely not HHN worthy in any way is a bit silly.
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The Saw houses were terrible, the only time they were good is when Universal veered from the voyeuristic formula

Even if they did the Red Light Green Light game...Glass Bridge game...And cutting out/licking cookies game (as riveting as that would be) at half the scale it would come across as silly

Sure they could use "forced perspective" and mirror gags, of course...but I fear it wouldn't be convincing enough even with them throwing all their tricks at it

Even with Saw's voyeuristic nature, it still lends itself to the linear hallways and tight rooms that a haunted house needs to be successful
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logistically speaking , squid game would be perfect as a zone. but wouldnt work as a house.
show is tailor made for a zone,

the games in squid game take place in big yards and playgrounds, and each game had a lot of participants, both things would work perfectly in a zone,
the streets are big enough to recreate all the games with props and stages, recreate the game environments, and there would be a lot of actors running around, and then the guests would be like extra players. perfectly recreating how crowded the games were.
it would be true to the show and easy to adapt
(you could have a show in the zone where the speakers play the green light red light song and the actors mimick the game every hour or so. imagine the big doll turning her head in the zone for example)
each section of the zone could have the actors playing the games, the rope, the sugar game, have the leader masked guy in a stage overseeing the games. is literally perfect.
but in a house you lose the big yard setting and the crowded element. house is narrow and single file line. house rooms are too small to recreate the games. wouldn't feel crowded, and each game in a house (each room) would just have a couple of actors.

I'm not saying I want squid game but a zone would imitate the show the most. just say that for hhn, all games are played at once. or make it part of the plot, or something.
 
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