Attendance Tracker

[Mad Dog]

For what it is, USH is at the point where rumors are starting to come out that their premium passes will have Gate A (And i'm not talking about the Tram, the entire park) and their Gold passes will start to have Parking added to it.

I think that things could get interesting in terms of how they handle pricing for the future for any park in general.

What's Gate A?

 

[Viator]

What's Gate A?

Front of The Line (AKA, their rendition of universal express).

 

[Mad Dog]

Front of The Line (AKA, their rendition of universal express).

Thanks.

 

[Mr. EPCOT]

Blockout for IOA has been lifted.

Yep, ALL blackout dates have been lifted for the summer, for Power Pass, Florida residents, and Team Members.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Yep, ALL blackout dates have been lifted for the summer, for Power Pass, Florida residents, and Team Members.

This is great, attendance is flat or down day to day from last year. I worry about Disney not being quick enough to respond. Standing stoically on the Titanic as it goes down doesn't mean everything is ok.

Also as a small update ADRs are becoming harder to book this fall compared to this summer. Seems like fall will be flat or increased attendance at WDW.

 

[Scott W.]

Does anybody know what the figures are like for APs for the parks

 

[Galaxy Defender]

Yep, ALL blackout dates have been lifted for the summer, for Power Pass, Florida residents, and Team Members.

This indicates that UO is not immune to the slowdown in park attendance. Still, it does not look like they are having the problems that Sea World and WDW are having.

Anyone know what WDW hotel occupancy rates look like this summer?

 

[sjago13]

If they are flat or slightly down but in seeing how Disney is down more perhaps they are doing this to get a surge of attendance from locals to try and pile on possible percentage gains vs Disney in attendance. Then you can go to investors and be like although attendance was flat our investment has still allowed us to gain market share.

 

[Galaxy Defender]

If they are flat or slightly down but in seeing how Disney is down more perhaps they are doing this to get a surge of attendance from locals to try and pile on possible percentage gains vs Disney in attendance. Then you can go to investors and be like although attendance was flat our investment has still allowed us to gain market share.

Blackout dates are there to keep parks from getting too crowded. If they aren't too crowded might as well let them in, especially if they spend money. Boosting numbers is a nice bonus.

 

[Galaxy Defender]

Orlando Informer is reporting Universal Orlando has lifted the blackout dates on regular Team Member complimentary tickets for the rest of summer.

They also say that UO hotels have been consistently over 95% occupancy for the summer.

 

[Mad Dog]

It seems that most summers Universal has lifted the power pass blackout dates early.

 

[MrRoamer]

Orlando Informer is reporting Universal Orlando has lifted the blackout dates on regular Team Member complimentary tickets for the rest of summer.

They also say that UO hotels have been consistently over 95% occupancy for the summer.

I don't get these two sentences being together. How can they be at 95% occupancy with a brand new and a new-ish hotel and not be completely packed in the park? Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy that they lifted Blackouts, I'm just having trouble seeing these two things right next to each other.

 

[JoeCamel]

If they are flat or slightly down but in seeing how Disney is down more perhaps they are doing this to get a surge of attendance from locals to try and pile on possible percentage gains vs Disney in attendance. Then you can go to investors and be like although attendance was flat our investment has still allowed us to gain market share.

Of course WDW said they planned to drop the numbers in search of the better guest experience. Lets see spend per guest day numbers, those are the ones that count.

 

[Galaxy Defender]

I don't get these two sentences being together. How can they be at 95% occupancy with a brand new and a new-ish hotel and not be completely packed in the park? Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy that they lifted Blackouts, I'm just having trouble seeing these two things right next to each other.

I agree they seem contradictory. All I can says is blackouts lifted speaks to attendance. High occupancy speaks to Universal getting more of the guest dollars, meaning better profits. This last part helps ensure expansion even if attendance sags for a while.

I would always rather see good and bad news for UO rather than all bad.

 

[Galaxy Defender]

Of course WDW said they planned to drop the numbers in search of the better guest experience. Lets see spend per guest day numbers, those are the ones that count.

If hotel occupancy is down it would be hard to show spending up.

 

[JungleSkip]

I agree they seem contradictory. All I can says is blackouts lifted speaks to attendance. High occupancy speaks to Universal getting more of the guest dollars, meaning better profits. This last part helps ensure expansion even if attendance sags for a while.

I would always rather see good and bad news for UO rather than all bad.

I'm pretty sure they lift blackout dates early almost every year.

 

[Galaxy Defender]

I'm pretty sure they lift blackout dates early almost every year.

We might just be paying more attention to it this year.

 

[Mad Dog]

I'm pretty sure they lift blackout dates early almost every year.

Yep. See my above post. I think they even did it when Diagon opened. I don't think it means much. Lines are typical summer length right now.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

I don't get these two sentences being together. How can they be at 95% occupancy with a brand new and a new-ish hotel and not be completely packed in the park? Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy that they lifted Blackouts, I'm just having trouble seeing these two things right next to each other.

They have, what, 3000 rooms now? Assume it's 4 people per room, 12000 a night. USF can fit at least four times that into the park.

 

[Mad Dog]

They have, what, 3000 rooms now? Assume it's 4 people per room, 12000 a night. USF can fit at least four times that into the park.

More like 5600 plus.